British Muslims will double to 5.5m in 20 years in Britain, page 33

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reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 08:36 AM by awake_and_aware

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Free market capitalist monetary system - Allows people to grow fat in one country while in other people starve to death in another, or in the same country. The system promotes greed not helping other people/countries.

Sometimes people state thugs and gangs on the street do bad things because of a lack of belief in a God, this is not the case - There are number of social/cultural issues that stem from the ecomomic system. (Laws against drugs>organised drug crime)

The capitalist system is a double edged sword; while effective medicines get funding, unhealthy fast food companies get funding too (because of public support, not scientific)

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reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 08:58 AM by Hawkwind.

Originally posted by TheGhostViking

Does any one tell a white man where he can live on this earth ?
no !
THIS earth belongs to everyone, who are you to tell another human being where to live ?
you and tptb are not gods you just happen to live on the same land as we do , the land that is called earth and belongs to all .

Err, yes they do tell white men where they can and can not live. If I wanted to move to Australia right now I couldn't, or America. I'd need to be a Dr or have some sort of other valuable trade/profession to get into those places which I don't. So get your little ''white man'' chip off your shoulders, that goes for you even if you're white yourself.

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 09:24 AM by tiger5

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by awake_and_aware
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We have "Equal Rights and Opportunities" in the U.K.

doesn't matter what's on the books. it literally does not.
all that matters is the amount of melanin in your skin. since you don't have a representative republic, whites in the uk will eventually be voted out of jobs and starved to death in their own country.
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Wow how graphic and how wrong. Very few peoplel hate whites. No one will engender such cruely or xenophobia as to have people starving todeath in their country and how do you vote anyone out of a job unless you are refering to politicians? Nice scaremongering. Good to know you are a xtian!

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 09:31 AM by tiger5

Well in several posts I have alluded to the "British solution" which will prevent the country being taken over by the moorish hordes (sarcasm). Many people here have denied any such solution and seem to be preparing for a fight / commit suicide or whatever hysterics do.

I must tip my hand to salmon chops - he has come up with a British solution. I think things will be changing. But thankfully multiculturalism will exist so we can respect everyone.

Actually perhaps he has put a shot across the bows and satifiied his own party perhaps time will tell.

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 09:48 AM by undo

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in south africa, in an effort to empower the black population who were recovering from apartheid, they fired white workers and replaced them with black workers. unemployment for the minority white people there is up 500%

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 09:55 AM by awake_and_aware

Finally Britain is starting to wake up

This has to be the start of something great.

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 10:23 AM by stumason

Originally posted by awake_and_aware
The law preventing someone's right to own a slave only changed in Britain in the last 10 years (LOL) Social attitudes were changed long ago.

Erm, what?

I think you'll find the UK and British Empire abloished Slavery at the beggining of the 19th century (and was one of the first to do so I might add) and actively hunted slave trading ships of other nations (including the US) for decades after to disrupt and end the trade.

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 10:45 AM by tiger5

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maybe. Perhaps. It is difficult to separate hearsay from fact. I take it that you have some kind of link for me to read. Anyway in case you have not noticed Britain is not South Africa and never has been.

Just a thought

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 10:48 AM by awake_and_aware

Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by awake_and_aware
The law preventing someone's right to own a slave only changed in Britain in the last 10 years (LOL) Social attitudes were changed long ago.

Erm, what?

I think you'll find the UK and British Empire abloished Slavery at the beggining of the 19th century (and was one of the first to do so I might add) and actively hunted slave trading ships of other nations (including the US) for decades after to disrupt and end the trade.

Slavery became a criminal offence in Britain on 6th April, 2010. The slave trade was ended in 1807. In 1834 it was illegal to keep a slave anywhere in the British Empire. However, it was not until 2010 when it was made illegal to own a slave in Britain as stated in Section 71 of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009. It was never criminalised before hand because it was not recognised as a state of being. There were other laws against kidnapping, abduction, false imprisonment, sexual trafficking, and other things associated with slavery, but it was not illegal for one person to own another. There are an estimated 27 million slaves in the world, which is more than there was when slavery was illegal.

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 11:16 AM by undo

Originally posted by tiger5
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maybe. Perhaps. It is difficult to separate hearsay from fact. I take it that you have some kind of link for me to read. Anyway in case you have not noticed Britain is not South Africa and never has been.

Just a thought

can you watch youtube videos?
i realize it's not, but the thing is the same. what has happened is, the marxists (many of which are white), have been using racism against blacks as far back in history as necessary, to advance that anything you do against whites and/or capitalists, is completely justified.

these same marxists have taken under their wing, the islamic population, using them like a ready made army and disruptive element, to push their political agenda. they do this by drumming up historical examples of bad treatment of blacks and/or muslims. only white against black racism is mentioned.

meanwhile, muslims have a huge prison recruitment plan, from which many blacks are converted to islam before they get out of prison. the final result is a large portion of the population, including muslims and blacks, now converted to islam and/or marxism, are raised up in your country to hate white people and view them as the enemy, and they're being taught that whites, white capitalists, white christians and non marxist white jews, are evil and need to be exterminated by any means necessary. they are taught this in the mosques, in the universities, in the streets, in the music, and by the socialist, left wing parties, all over the world.

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reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 11:19 AM by awake_and_aware

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On the otherhand, many Marxists are humanist. Just thought i'd clear that up before Marxism is stigmatized further with racism.

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 11:36 AM by undo

Originally posted by awake_and_aware
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On the otherhand, many Marxists are humanist. Just thought i'd clear that up before Marxism is stigmatized further with racism.

that's the only way marxism can exist: by racism, bigotry against christians and jews, and by drumming up support on the perceived notion that people who are not marxist, are prejudice, abusive, greedy, and evil, and since there's historical examples of capitalists and/or whites, using minorities such as blacks, as slaves, they distract attention from all the other races who have done the same thing, including other blacks and/or muslims.

no white slavery is mentioned. no black on white crime is mentioned. it's very easy to see what's going on. they target populations of people who are not white, to gain support, doing this kind of thing. i'm guessing the white marxists think they'll survive the resulting genocides because their predecessors did in places in africa and south america, etc, and because they will know via the grape vine, when the crap is about to hit the fan. but just before it hits the fan, you'll lose your job because of your skin color and the marxists will be right in the midst of it, egging it on for the power it represents.

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reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 12:17 PM by tiger5

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can you watch youtube videos?

Yes I can watch youtube videos. It is the same Youtube videos that seek to pass of that the moon landing were fake. The greys are taking over your shopping mall,various fake ghost, demons and a plethora of entities? Sorry you need to do better than that.

these same marxists have taken under their wing, the islamic population, using them like a ready made army and disruptive element, to push their political agenda. they do this by drumming up historical examples of bad treatment of blacks and/or muslims. only white against black racism is mentioned.

Well actually the British Police have been recording black and white racist attacks for over a decade. You are waay behind. This persecution complex is your problem and you need to see the reality.

i realize it's not, but the thing is the same. what has happened is, the marxists (many of which are white), have been using racism against blacks as far back in history as necessary, to advance that anything you do against whites and/or capitalists, is completely justified.

So did you support the Apartheid era? Perhaps the blacks were to upity or should have borne their racism like the noble beast of burden? I do not know what p[lanet you are on but I despair. I really do.

meanwhile, muslims have a huge prison recruitment plan, from which many blacks are converted to islam before they get out of prison. the final result is a large portion of the population, including muslims and blacks, now converted to islam and/or marxism, are raised up in your country to hate white people and view them as the enemy, and the

Well whites justified apartheid in general for a long time. What do you expect black people to do? The ANC was not marxist they largely use rhetoric. However, I can agree with the Moslems recruiting prisoners. That is a problem.

I suppose you wept when Mandela came out.

You ought to look up "lumpen proletariat" Marxist dislike the "lumpen elements in society so would not be recruiting them.

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reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 12:55 PM by undo

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actually, i wasn't even aware what apartheid was till mr. mandela. and i disagreed with apartheid, once i knew what it was. the video is about the new poor people in south africa, whites. new black empowerment has put so many white africans out of work, that unemployment amongst whites is up by 500%. that's insane. . there's 80% black unemployment (apparently you didn't bother to read my other posts in this thread or you wouldn't be acting like this). so my suggestion was that they stop importing in goods that their country can benefit from by making themselves, creating new jobs and potential entrepreneurial opportunities, for EVERYONE. all black empowerment did was take jobs held by whites and give them to blacks. there's still a huge huge group of black people without jobs there and according to the guys in charge, as long as there's such a huge amount of black people without work, the amount of white people in the work force will continue to decline until the equation is balanced.

now if 80% of south africa is black, and unemployed, you do the math. how long will it be before there are enough jobs in south africa for it to balance out enough for white people to be allowed back in the work force?

YouTube Link

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 01:00 PM by ObviousTroll

I will always be skeptical of these reports. Because we can never be sure what would happen tomorrow. I do agree it's scary seeing Britain's image changing. Heck I believe Ron Paul mentioned the best way for dealing with the various situations in Mexico-will be to keep Mexico stable. America; like Great Britain, and various other European countries need to control their immigration policies. I am reminded of Charles Darwin views on evolution. I can say this is evolution in action.

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 01:11 PM by tiger5

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Look why not start a thread on South Africa. Believe me the UK is very different. Rememebr inthe past I have tried to get the thread back on track several times. THe problems of south africa are inevitable and unique. Which other country had apartheid and changed.

Frankly I saw the problems as soon as Mandela was released that day because there were black kids looting behind him. The white power structure had not sorted the economy out and so sold him a put. You may actually see it on Youtube.

Marxsts in the UK are against racism but also against the fundamentalists.

The avowed UK tactic is interventionist but they cannot recruit fundamentalists as they are religious zealots.

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reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 01:17 PM by undo

Originally posted by tiger5
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Look why not start a thread on South Africa. Believe me the UK is very different. Rememebr inthe past I have tried to get the thread back on track several times. THe problems of south africa are inevitable and unique. Which other country had apartheid and changed.

Frankly I saw the problems as soon as Mandela was released that day because there were black kids looting behind him. The white power structure had not sorted the economy out and so sold him a put. You may actually see it on Youtube.

Marixsts in the UK are against racism but also against the fundamentlists.

The avowed UK tactic is interventionist but they cannot recruit fundamentalists as they are religious zealots.

i think fascism and marxism are the same thing, with the exception of who the elitists are.
fascism is just another form of serfdom and so is marxism . in fascism, the elitists are religiously motivated but the political landscape is socialistic. in marxism, the elitists are atheists and the political landscape is socialistic. i see them as two arms of the same entity, who's inevitable resolution is the eradication of white people (although most marxists and fascists of white heritage, don't see it that way, they will as that's where all this is headed).

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 01:31 PM by stumason

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I think you'll find that is a mere technicality.

It has actually been illegal to own a slave in England/UK (in fact most of Europe) since the middle ages, due to Papal decress and such forth, but not in the colonies, which is when the law was changed in the 19th century. Merely recognising an oversight in Statute Law and filling that loophole is not indicative of anything other than some lawyer saying to another,

"You know what Steve, technically, I could own a slave in the UK because no one ever thought to put a law in place"

"That's right Nigel" said Steve, "Because no one has ever had a slave in the UK and no one thought to right it into law. We only add it now as an after-thought".

In other words, I think you may be reaching just a little too far to prove whatever it is you're trying to prove.

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 01:33 PM by awake_and_aware

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in marxism, the elitists are atheists and the political landscape is socialistic.

Please i know you don't intend to spread nonsense but you are.

The marxist believes proletariats inevitably revolt against the goverment, which will reform the oppression of past times.

Especially marxist humanism expresses that this is a great thing, that we should revolt against the goverment to emancipate the oppressed - Democratic free speech has braught the reform of opression against women, ethnic minorities and also reformed social attitude towards minority opinion (discrimination of homosexuals)

Atheist elitists? You mean George Bush and Dick Cheney who express a belief in God while they collect their winings from their oil-companies and what their collegues have done for them on the Stock Market.

I can be an Atheist, Humanist and Marxist all at once, those ideologies do not conflict.

reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 01:33 PM by awake_and_aware

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