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British Muslims will double to 5.5m in 20 years in Britain

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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Your source is the racist BNP. THat tells me a lot about you and your politics. The BNP are cowardly and frankly beneath me. They are due to implode as all homoerotic fascist have done through history. My point about moslems in prison is simply that moslems do not get an easy ride in the UK legal system they get jailed if criminal. They follow the usual criminal trajectory of possibly escaping with a few crimes before being jailed. My grandfather fought you nazis in WW2 he said you guys were a joke with your goose stepping idiocy.

Do I respect Islam? Well it is a world religion. I respect the Sufis but never joined. You should look up Sufism I do not care to research every aspect of Islam because I am have better things to do with my time. I am not interested in Sharia law but am happy for moslems to do so in the their community. Sharia must always be below English law..
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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Was just about to post exactly that but you beat me to it.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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The BNP are just the modern day NF, a bunch of racist thugs who should have no right to run for power, the day the BNP take power will be the day I leave this island.

Just because they changed their policies to allow non-whites to join doesn't mean they aren't still racist thugs behind the curtains.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by TheGhostViking
Thought id bring some balance . to this thread .
I cannot believe you just posted a BNP video , mods is this allowed ?
anyway enjoy this .......

www.dailymail.co.uk...
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Oh Briliant. Let them go and further stir up the simmering pot! The moslems who hold a grudging support for the fundamentalists could have taken a further step towards fundamentalism except for the fact that the police forces have steped in. Then the BNP idiots then say hey the police are protecting the moslems over the Englishman (who is always white) and go gooose steping up the high street!

Again do we want a race war? I do if I could cleanse the world of racists but in reality the innocent always get hurt in any war.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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Legal or not they are fascists and you support fascists do you? No you don't hjave to answer to me at all. I think all of your posts now fall into perspective.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by woogleuk
The BNP are just the modern day NF, a bunch of racist thugs who should have no right to run for power


Well that's a matter of speculation, I am neither for or against the BNP... do you have any hard evidence to back up that they are the modern NF?

The BNP get a very hard time in the mainstream leftist media, because they are right wing, so no matter what they say they are always going to be portrayed negatively by the biased leftist media.




the day the BNP take power will be the day I leave this island.


The BNP will never get into power, but none the less they do put the cat amongst the pigeons now and again and do act as a voice for a minority of the UK public.



Just because they changed their policies to allow non-whites to join doesn't mean they aren't still racist thugs behind the curtains.


Actually non white people have been allowed to join the UK for years, all they ask is that you hold common english ideals.

But they are far too extreme for my liking and that is why I am not a member of the BNP, as I have stated I dislike extremism in ALL forms, I see the BNP as a reactionary movement... but sometimes you need a counter acting force to meet another.
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by tiger5
Legal or not they are fascists and you support fascists do you? No you don't hjave to answer to me at all. I think all of your posts now fall into perspective.


No I do not support the BNP,

I actually support UKIP.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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shocked, i didn't join ats to have bnp shoved in my face .
but thanks spinster for revealing where you guys get your offensive views from .



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by TheGhostViking
shocked, i didn't join ats to have bnp shoved in my face .


You've hardly had the BNP shoved in your face, the guy posts ONE video which was shot by the BNP, that is hardly having it shoved in your face.



but thanks spinster for revealing where you guys get your offensive views from


There you go with the generalisations that you have so vehermently expressed opinions against, now you are the one generalising people.

Do you now lump me in with the BNP just because I stand on the fence, neither for or against them?

Have I expressed ANY offensive views? No... I do not believe that I have, you are generalising people by the use of the words, "you guys".
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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Please if you going to make claims like this, at least quote the person who is forcing this "BnP" propaganda down your neck. Give people a chance to defend themselves.

It's about time you start putting something of substance into this debate. I'm sick of the constant whining and stigma. If you're going to debate, expect other users to respond to your points and even contradictions.

Stop putting your hands in your ears and saying "lalalalala"


I see you,ve met mr "awake and aware " lol bang your head against the wall it will hurt less than talking to him , lol.


Really showing your character on ATS, my friend. you really are.

Maybe if you'd direct some of your points in my direction i might respond, you're just typing nonsense in this thread. It's an attempt to shut up people with another opinion. It's not working.

If you have a problem, or want a debate, direct a post at me or U2U me. Don't talk nonsense in my threads though.
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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Well that's a matter of speculation, I am neither for or against the BNP... do you have any hard evidence to back up that they are the modern NF?


Well, you don't need hard evidence, it's common knowledge, It was created in 1982 by John Tyndall when he split from the NF due to the NF reputation, when the NF shut down it's remaining members went to the BNP.

Same ideals, same agenda, just not as apparent as the NF.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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Did you post the video ? No well theres your answer .
anyway halo carrry on defending what you want its your choice .
Shame that when you learnt all those languages you forgot to learn some racial tolerance
HAVE FUN HALO
i wish you well with your crusade
oh crusade how poignant wouldn't you say ?



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by TheGhostViking
shocked, i didn't join ats to have bnp shoved in my face .
but thanks spinster for revealing where you guys get your offensive views from .



Im neither a member or supporter of the bnp, as i said the video was just for reference if you had bothered to read, my post was about how immigration creates gettos, it was just a vid i pulled off youtube. grow up.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Anyway someone had a brainf*rt and slipped a BNP protional video in. Well I still say that the moslems of today will probably become very anglicised as is Baroness Warsi and many other prominent british moslems.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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Also I do not take kindly to Destinstion now constantly asking how much tax I pay too much tax! but stil this is l none of your business and why do you inquire if im able bodied or not what if i was not ? problem ? My father has had MS for over 10 years now , does that satisfy you . ??


No, I was repeatedly asking you what you thought I was an agent for? You made the accusation! I did ask about tax twice, because I have big concerns as a tax payer myself that the amount coming back out of the system is not sustainable in the long run and I want to know where the money is coming from to support this mass expansion of population who rely on the welfare state. As you made a comment about being at the job centre, I surmised that you may claim benefits, though did not say you definitely did, but, as I said in a previous post, I do not have an issue with people who physically cannot work, just the ones who can and don't. I stated in my post that I did not know what category you fell into, and as such was not making a judgment. I did not ask you to confirm your employment status or your physical condition.

I do not know how your father having MS is in anyway relevant, apart from him possibly being unfit to work, but that is your father, not you. My father died of a heat attack when I was seven, I have had 2 relatives die of lung and bowel.cancer in the last 3 years, and another relative, a child of 10 who is currently undergoing treatment for leukemia, as well as another 2 friends, one who has just been given the all clear and another just diagnosed with breast cancer. My mother, who is 71 has COPD, and is very ill at times, and as she lives on her own, I am very worried about her, I would love to have her to stay but I do not have the room to make her comfortable, and I would love to be able to spend more time with her, but I have a job and a family of my own.

So, does that satisfy you?



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by TheGhostViking
anyway halo carrry on defending what you want its your choice .


I'm not defending the BNP I am simply commenting on people's ignorance (your's included), I dislike ignorance whoever it may come from.




Shame that when you learnt all those languages you forgot to learn some racial tolerance


Racial tolerance? Have I displayed any intolerance against ANY race? No...

All I have done on this thread is highlight people's ignorance and shown my dislike for religion and extremism and that goes for all the Abrahamic religions.



i wish you well with your crusade
oh crusade how poignant wouldn't you say ?


What crusade would that be? The crusade against ignorance? then thank you...

You have attempted to tar and feather me, regardless of what I say, simply because I state a few opinions which are NOT racist or intolerant.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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immigration creates gettos
No wrong sorry - government create ghettoes for the immigrants actually its supposed to be that way , il explain further if you want but i thought this a simple concept to grasp .



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:31 PM
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Firtsly the BNP is a perfectly legal political party in the Uk - though since the PC progressives have an almost total strangle hold on all forms of media in the UK (all the institutions actually) - it is allways conjoined with the labels racist, far right, thugs, skinheads etc etc - it's policies are never never mentioned or discussed - all a far cry from the truth - and pretty much the same situation goes for the EDL - whose membership originated I believe from the football terraces - the one and only british institution not controlled by PC progressives.



But that's socialists for you - all for free speech as long as it's their free speech - they will ruthlessly supress anyone elses right to state their opinion - in fact they have invented a special thought crimes for dissenting opinion 'racism' , sexism , islamophobia etc.

Ah - well except when it is the enemy of their enemy doing it ie Islam - they of course can be intolerant supremecist, women hating, gay bashing, honour killing , jew hating, fundamentalist, warmongering, authoritaian dicatorial, torturing, murdering kidnapping piratical terrorists - anything you like it is all excused because thier hatred is directed against Western culture.

Public opinion in Britain is overwhelmingly anti-muslim 80% at least - this is not a racist thing, nomatter how much the muslims try to portray it as such - we are not against blacks or chinese - just muslims because ordinary people are not fooled by the media brainwashing - they know full well the threat that Islam poses to their way of life.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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We're not all as intelligent as you GhostViking. I guess we just can't grasp simple ideas here in the UK. We're just peasant nation, full of brutes, pork lovers and racists.

A truly riveting tale, chap.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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So, does that satisfy you?
Well seeing as I havn't asked you any personal questions whatsoever I fail to understand why you share this with me .



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