NEW FOIA Released WTC 7 Audio/Video Reveals Controlled Demoltion.

reply to post by hooper
There is not a chance that I am wrong. You know it, and I know it. I have no problem looking at myself in the mirror. I doubt you can say that.

reply to post by jlv70

Heres a link to a site that has a history, or lack thereof, of steel framed buildings that collapsed due to fire.

No, no.

You said the ONLY BUILDINGS in history to collapse from fire.

Prove that no other building has collapsed due to fire.

reply to post by hooper


All your typing and arguments have not swayed anyone into believing that WTC 7 collapsed in some ridiculous way other than an obvious planned controlled collapse we all see. Everyone sees an apple and you are trying to tell them that they are stupid and they see an orange. Give it up lol.

Reporter says " WE dont know if this was engineered for safety reasons...." Boy is he close to the truth.

Look at that straight up and down collapse. Perfect demolition.

reply to post by Shadow Herder

All your typing and arguments have not swayed anyone into believing that WTC 7 collapsed in some ridiculous way other than an obvious planned controlled collapse we all see.

Really? You sure about that? How about all the eyes who come here for a look and see that all these so-called "theories" are just empty specualtion that cannot stand up to even casual scrutiny. Do you really see the "truth movement" growing by leaps and bounds, with the masses clamouring for a new investigation? Or do you really see this whole thing just shrinking into the background, fading due to unrelenting disinterest.

Everyone sees an apple and you are trying to tell them that they are stupid and they see an orange.

That's because one of us has to be rational and tell the truth.

Give it up lol.

My work is almost done here.

reply to post by Shadow Herder


In the video, what do you think is evidence of controlled demolition?

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Sporadic fires would only contribute to an uneven, chaotic collapse....

How so? Is there a rule that says the outcome must compliment the cause? Also, please be advised that what you are stating are your word choices - no facts. Sporadic is your word choice. What is a sporadic fire?

because a steel-reinforced concrete skyscraper HAS NEVER in the history of building, of anywhere in the world, come striaght down like that....and the ONLY WAY a steel-reinforced concrete building CAN come down like that is with controlled demolition. that is not opinion, it is scientific fact.
and if you do not believe that, post ONE site, or reference, or document, where a steel-reinforced concrete building has been brought striaght down by fire.

Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Sporadic fires would only contribute to an uneven, chaotic collapse....

How so? Is there a rule that says the outcome must compliment the cause? Also, please be advised that what you are stating are your word choices - no facts. Sporadic is your word choice. What is a sporadic fire?

because a steel-reinforced concrete skyscraper HAS NEVER in the history of building, of anywhere in the world, come striaght down like that....and the ONLY WAY a steel-reinforced concrete building CAN come down like that is with controlled demolition. that is not opinion, it is scientific fact. .

Everyone agrees with you. The resident debunkers here who parrot the official story have failed miserably to mislead, derail or explain using magical logic as to why wtc7 fell straight down. Controlled demolition. Spread the word.

Originally posted by jimmyx

because a steel-reinforced concrete skyscraper HAS NEVER in the history of building, of anywhere in the world, come striaght down like that....and the ONLY WAY a steel-reinforced concrete building CAN come down like that is with controlled demolition. that is not opinion, it is scientific fact.
and if you do not believe that, post ONE site, or reference, or document, where a steel-reinforced concrete building has been brought striaght down by fire.

Oh boy I see you missed out on quite a but of facts when you copy and pasted that bogus lie.

First off: WTC7 was NOT a steel-reinforced concrete skyscraper. So, your first strike.
Second, steel structures have failed from FIRE alone a few times. They just arent as reported and as spectacular as the WTCs. Look up Windsor Tower and read about how fast it took for the steel only section to fail, and what was the only thing to remain standing. Or the McCormick Place fire where the roof collapsed within 20 minutes of the fires starting. It had a very large steel truss structure supporting the roof, it collapsed from fire alone. Strike two.
A steel reinforced building can collapse or partially collapse from fire alone, as it has happened before. Delfit University's building did just that. Wasnt a total collapse for obvious reasons, but it did have a substantial partial collapse from fire alone. Strike three, youre out!

All of your points have been addressed and debunked many times. But thanks to the internet, crap can still stay on and refloat back to the top like a bad low-flow toilet flush.

Originally posted by dillweed
reply to post by jlv70

 

Watching 'the group' try to defend number seven's death by fire story is sad. This must be their hardest evidence to watch. The ONLY buildings in history to collapse due to fire. What on earth motivates someone to defend such an obvious lie?

The confusion and sadness that sets in once they stop defending the lie will be devastating.
This is the motivation to defend such a lie.
There is nothing more painful than having your core beliefs pulled out from under you.
As we all know - it changes ones life drastically.

reply to post by spinkyboo


Yeah right. It's not "debunkers" who are inventing an alternate reality composed of secret space lasers, shadowy mossad agents and super thermite because they're frightened of the real world. Read some Jung. You'll see how comforting and - for some people, like truthers, necessary - it is to have a cogent narrative to explain something that you find disturbing.

Here's a quote about 9/11 from someone Truthers enjoy referencing:

"the conspiracy theory... is a smart and sometimes sincere contrafaction of reality caused by the fear of that reality"

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
reply to post by spinkyboo

 

Yeah right. It's not "debunkers" who are inventing an alternate reality composed of secret space lasers, shadowy mossad agents and super thermite because they're frightened of the real world. Read some Jung. You'll see how comforting and - for some people, like truthers, necessary - it is to have a cogent narrative to explain something that you find disturbing.

Here's a quote about 9/11 from someone Truthers enjoy referencing:

"the conspiracy theory... is a smart and sometimes sincere contrafaction of reality caused by the fear of that reality"

Let's stay in reference to what this OP is stating. That this was a controlled demolition. Controlled demolition. I don't see the OP talking about secret space lasers here -do you? Controlled demolition.

reply to post by spinkyboo


Yeah. Except you didn't mention a controlled demolition. And I was responding to you.

reply to post by TrickoftheShade


They seem to avoid this thread too. Funny they love to troll on the DEW and Space weapon threads.....

Video with eyewitness reports of the demolition of WTC 7.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
This video was released in the last few months by the Freedom of Information Act. It shows a good angle of wtc 7 but with audio. It seems like all these NIST videos that were being held has also been edited before release. Missing clips, sound and other anomalies.

Intersting is the penthouse collapse and the windows many floors below being blown out. As you can see there is no fire near the penthouse support. The building came down so controlled that many floors did not lose a window till the whole building hit the ground.

Here is an image to show you how immense this building was.

It was then reduced to this

*Notice how close WTC7 was to its neighbors. Notice how little damage they suffered and how small the 47 story skyscraper was reduced to.

edit on 28-1-2011 by Shadow Herder because: Added images.

edit on 28-1-2011 by Shadow Herder because: (no reason given)

Thanx to the OP for posting this! S&F!

There are plenty of vids out there that show and prove that it was demolitioned. I have seen them on youtube. You just have to search and you will find!

Okay don't where this thread is at, but I have relevant content.

This account is a bunch of videos I found that were released from NIST after a group of brave people took them to court. I watched these videos when they first came out, and at the time did not clue in to the immediate impact they could have. Here is the channel that provided the OC.

Hope this adds to the discussion, there is lots in here.

www.youtube.com...

One specifically backing up the OP's video.

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by pteridine
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

In the video, what do you think is evidence of controlled demolition?

What evidence do you see in the video that shows that it was not controlled demolition.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
What evidence do you see in the video that shows that it was not controlled demolition.

No sign of explosives being used

No time to wire the building up with explosives

zero evidence in the rubble that explosives were used

now why do you think explosives were used?