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Originally posted by GodofWar411
that there belief there country there life.... not our place to change it
if it's not our citizen our against our country we should keep our hands out of it....
leave them to live there way......
Originally posted by Okandetre
Well if found guilty of this crime (not if they were or weren't or if you think it is a crime itself) it's what the good book prescribes as a just punishment.
I'm not excusing their behavior. I'm simply questioning the logic (and sanity) of resorting to nuking an entire country because two people got stoned.
And is it justified when we want to force our own thoughts into other people?
Originally posted by Maslo
If their cult is incinting violence, it is justified. Religious freedom does not include freedom to promote these ideas.
Originally posted by blupblup
And as I discussed with someone, what was worse than the actual stoning for me, was the look of excitement and anticipation on the faces of those about to do the stoning.
The click-clacking of rocks and the pure joy that some of these "people" (i use the term loosely as to call them animals would be an insult to animals) seemed to display was sickening.... truly.
So, to avoid something bad we do something bad?
Originally posted by Seitler
And if we do nothing then it will be...
...COMING to a neighborhood near YOU!
I think death penalty in any form is an indignant form of punishment, but that doesn't mean that I will say that we must stop the US from having the death penalty "before it spreads to our own home towns".
This is the point: We must try to end this indignant form of punishment before it spreads to our own home towns. Its like an ant problem... they start out in small numbers, but once they know good food is around they swarm enmass.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
1 - A wrongful conviction can be rectified, and also allows the damaged party to seek damages because he is still alive. A brutal murder is just that and is permanent.
2 - kidnapping is where a person is forcefully abducted against their will, depriving that individual of their legal and constitutional rights absent a court of law.
Physical torture is when a person is physically harmed / injured in order to produce a response or certain behavior.
A wrongful conviction is a breakdown in the legal system where an innocent person is incarcerated for a crime they did not commit.
and again, under western law all of the above are able to be challeneged in court, and the wronged parties have a legal avenue for redress of greivances.
The 2 people who were killed in the OP - Were lied to by the authorites. We forcefully removed from their houses at 2 am. Were brought before 2 mullahs who held an illegal judicial proceeding, who then passed a death sentence and then carried it out.
My question for you is if you acknowledge in my last post that Sharia law was not followed in this case, so why are you trying to compare it to Western law? The response you gave me seemed to indicate that what occured with the mullahs actions was in violation of Sharia law, but you seem to approve of the actions and results of what occured.
Did I miss read your argument, or do you support what occured to these 2 people?
If Sharia law is violated, then how come they think they would go to heaven?
As a foillow up, what do you mean perspective is everything?edit on 28-1-2011 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by PoorFool
In America, people often spend 30 years in jail for a crime they did not commit. Often they wait 20 years in death roll to be executed. We're not any better.