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Originally posted by bobs_uruncle
Originally posted by OneLife
Speaking on behalf of the human race,
Um, I didn't authorize this, nobody speaks for me LOL. Cut the guy some slack, he wants to play with the big boys and he has an interesting idea, it's just a question of research, development, prototyping, testing and finally implementation and use. The walk down any path takes time and it would seem to me that 6 months or a year of hard work is not instant gratification.
When you really think about it everything we see, hear, feel, smell and taste comes from the past, even if the time delay is small and then there is the processing time in the brain which has an inherent propagation delay due to electrochemical interactions. So labeling anything "instant" is patently incorrect.
Another example, you can't even get instant gratification hooking up with some chick and taking her some place for a good romp. Not only is everything you experience in the past, but that takes time and work/energy followed by more time and work/energy (I think it's about a 1000 calories of energy anyway ;-). Gratification can be anywhere from 5 minutes to 5 hours away.
Cheers - Dave
Originally posted by dominicus
reply to post by polarwarrior
There is an infinite intelligent energy (with hundreds of names around the world) that will activate the third eye for you, when you are ready and when you selflessly and earnestly ask it to. The motivation to have it open must be pure and the work will be done for you, instantly.
Yes I know all of this ...I've spent the last 12 some odd years on a Spiritual quest...the thing is ...that in meditations I have seen blueprints for spiritual machines, or enlightenment machines.
Imagine sitting down an Atheist/Agnostic into one of these machines and giving them a "snippet" of the Spiritual world. This could even possibly bring about the Golden Age and a Massive world-wide Ego death. It could literally change the world!!!
Also, it's taken me 12 years to even slowly come close to anything that resembles a spiritual Awakening and a permanent enlightenment ...Imagine if we could cut that down to a few months!!!!!
The mistake in your theory is that knowledge is enlightenment. Enlightenment is about wisdom and that can only be earned through hard work and spiritual growth.
Anyone who is concerned about the goodies of this earth, this life is by definition not ready to deal with the spiritual. It is not a shortcut to getting what you want on this earth, it means the opposite.
A forced relationship is always harmful. We are the primitives and we are unprepared to meet with "higher" beings.