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Originally posted by beijingyank
reply to post by vipertech0596
We are talking about military grade nano thermite not a conventional demolition using C4.
There is no need for wires with this.
There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Military grade nano thermite has been proved through scientific evidence and analysis. Peer review papers have been published and are going global for other scientists to replicate their results and findings. The Truth Movement expects international scientists to enter the picture and elaborate and expand on the scientific evidence now known.
Thank you for this response FDNY343, it was honestly exactly the response I expected to hear from someone who is familiar with firefighting. Since I know that same person is posting on this thread, I hope they now see that I'm not the only one who thinks that argument is idiotic.
Originally posted by FDNY343And no, no independant scientist can replicate their findings, since Jones et al. will not provide a sample to compare to.
So unless your a qualified demolitions expert, what you say has no bearing on this.
We are talking about military grade nano thermite not a conventional demolition using C4
Originally posted by FDNY343
Not one of them are from FDNY, and not one of them were there on 9/11.
Anton Vodvarka, New York City Fire Dept. 15+ Years (retired)
Bryan Hunt, FDNY, 8-15 Years (retired)
George Guerci, L.35 (FDNY Ladder 35)
Jim Osorio, LFD Rescue 1 - Acting Rescue 5 FDNY (responded to the incident)
John Keenan, FDNY retired
xxxxxxxx, FDNY ret. Lt. 15+ Years
Originally posted by FDNY343
Nowhere in any of the sworn testimonies does anyone actually say that they believe bombs were in the building. I challenge you to find some.
Dominick Derubbio -- Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.) [Division 8]
"It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion ... "
Michael Donovan -- Captain (F.D.N.Y.)
"I thought there had been an explosion or a bomb that they had blown up there."
Gregg Hansson -- Lieutenant (F.D.N.Y.)
"I thought some type of bomb had gone off."
John Malley -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22]
"In my mind it was a bomb going off."
Kennith Rogers -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
"I figured it was a bomb, because it looked like a synchronized deliberate kind of thing. I was there in '93."
Captain Karin Deshore, commander of the FDNY‟s Emergency Medical Services
"Somewhere around the middle of the [North Tower], there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode. The popping sound, and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then a red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see. These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building...So here these explosions are getting bigger and louder and I told everybody if this building totally explodes, still unaware that the other building had collapsed, I‟m going in the water.”
Assistant Fire Commissioner Stephen Gregory
"I know I was with an officer from Ladder 146, a Lieutenant Evangelista, who ultimately called me up a couple of days later just to find out how I was. We both for whatever reason -- again, I don't know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down."
Q.: "Was that on the lower level of the building or up where the fire was?"
"No, the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw. And I didn't broach the topic to him, but he asked me. He said I don't know if I'm crazy, but I just wanted to ask you because you were standing right next to me. He said did you see anything by the building? And I said what do you mean by see anything? He said did you see any flashes? I said, yes, well, I thought it was just me. He said no, I saw them, too."
Craig Carlsen -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 8]
"I guess about three minutes later you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. We then realized the building started to come down."
"You did hear the explosions. The second one coming down, you knew the explosions. Now you're very familiar with it."
Stationary engineer Mike Pecoraro, talks about what he and his co-worker experienced after seeing lights flicker in the sixth sub-basement and hearing a big explosion at about 8:46AM:
"We went up to the C level, where there was a small machine shop, but there was nothing there but rubble. We‟re talking about a 50-ton hydraulic (brake) press---gone! We then went to the parking garage, but found that it, too, was gone. On the B level, we found that a steel and concrete fire door that weighed about 300 pounds was wrinkled up like a piece of aluminum foil. Finally when we went up to the ground floor, the whole lobby was soot and black, elevator doors were missing. The marble was missing off some of the walls.”
Anthony Saltalamacchia, a maintenance supervisor who was in his sub-basement office, reported:
"We heard a massive explosion...about 8:46AM.... Then we heard a series of other explosions.... And about, I‟d say 14 to 15 people came running and screaming into our office.... Then right after that the floor started shaking. The tile from above, which was above us, started coming down, falling on us....A man came into the office. He was a black man, very shaky, like in shock. He had multiple wounds. His arms were bleeding. Skin was peeling off....And as we‟re standing there, more explosions were happening. A lot of screaming confusion....It was very smoky, very cloudy.... We knew we had to get out of the building.... The amount of explosions I have heard from 8:46 until the time we got out was so many, at least ten. It was just like multiple explosions to where I felt like there were different grenades. That‟s what it sounded like, it was different grenades being set off in the building...There was one major explosion, and then there was different explosions throughout that period of time until we got out.”
Phillip Morelli, WTC construction worker was in sub-basement level D:
"My foreman asks me to remove the containers. As I'm walking by the main freight car of the building, that's when I got blown. The impact of the explosion or whatever happened, it threw me to the floor and that's when everything started happening. I started racing, going towards a bathroom, I opened the door and all of a sudden a big impact happened again and all of the ceiling tile was falling down. Light fixtures were falling, swinging out of the ceiling. And I come running out the door, and everything, the walls were down, and now I start running towards the parking lots. There was alot of smoke down there, alot of people screaming. People came with us running up the ramps, clear across the hold from 1WTC to 2WTC because that's the way you gotta run. And all of a sudden it happened all over again. Something else hit us to the floor. Right in the basement you felt it. Walls were caving in, everything that was going on.
I know of people that got killed in the basement, I know of people that got broken legs in the basement, people got reconstructive surgery because the walls hit them in the face."
Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by GamesKillFreedom
So, plant bombs in them, just in case....and then pray like hell they dont go off accidentally? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.