Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Jessie Ventura PLEASE HELP!!!, page 2
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reply posted on 28-1-2011 @ 09:17 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by Dr Cosma
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Yes but is Alex Jones an expert on planes and contrails?
Why dont you go out into the world and go to maybe universities get some hardcore evidence and come here and tell me that youre that kind of a guy.


The reason I appealed to these guys is they have money, and they have a stake in the game. They stand to gain something by spending the money. NO, I don't think they are real, but I am tired of the whining. And I am sick to death with the lazyness.


This is the inherent problem with organizations that focus on teaching brotherly love!

It is not in Jone's, Rense's, Ventura's or Icke's best interest to put conspiracy controversies to 'bed'.

They make fairly lucrative livings off of speculation and giving voice to fears, and teasing you with just 'enough' information to make the fear seem real. Real enough to buy a book or a subscription, or a "I hate reptillians" coffee mug.

If these guys aren't working for the Powers that Be, they deserve a bonus check anyway! They do more to promote the concepts of a New World Order while making it appear as hopelessly frightening to stand in the way of it, as the FCA will allow them too!

As far as these individuals being on the site, I believe what the observant member would notice is that everytime one of these guys comes out with a new book or gimmick and someone starts a thread on it here on ATS to promote it, announce it, or question it, there is inavariably a number of 'new' members who just joined that day singing their praises, and pointing out that they aren't getting that rich, and or they need the money to carry on their brave fight, and or that it really isn't all that much money they are asking to become a member or read a book, and or as far as they can tell their information always pans out and is backed up by this or that...

They are showmen, but just like you have those people who refuse to believe the government has been compromised and corrupted and is no longer under the people's control, you have those people on the other side of the coin who think these entertainers are the last bastion of bravery, truth and virtue.

You don't have to look further than many of ATS's most popular threads to understand and appreciate what they are doing.

Fear sells, the more fear, the more impossible it seems to stop it or do anything about it, the more death, damage or carnage it might potentially do the more popular a thread it is.

I feel sorry for the skeptics in a way, because there is no way for them to compete with that.

Debunking things or trying to be the voice of reason doesn't provide people the high drama and intrique that by and large so many people who flock to conspiracy circles love.

They the skeptics and more reasoned members can't always seem to grasp just what's infecting and effecting so many people so that they are often prepared to make real with their imaginations some incredible scenarios.

But it all boils down to the popularity of 'secret, secret, I have a secret' that makes the people who subscribe to some of these theories and notions feel like they are 'one step' ahead of the game, or in the 'know'.

Which roughly translated for an Icke or a Jones is "primed to make a purchasing decision".

They are in reality no different than the main stream media, that is to say, they make a living off of inuendo and opinion, editorial, and conjuring emotion to help plant and sell confusion.

I wish someone would or could call them out on that Network Dude but just like the politicians and the mainstream entertainment personalities they just hide behind throngs of groupies and supporters who sing their praises and deny all accusations.

Getting the truth, the whole truth, the real truth is not so easy on this planet, for every thing else there is VISA!

In reality these so called celebrity conspiracy theorists really just want you to allow them to charge your VISA too and soon!


reply posted on 28-1-2011 @ 10:29 AM by Dr Cosma
Originally posted by stars15k
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I have not suggested anything, where do you live inside of a box?

Okay, then what do you claim?


Although some could be photo shopped, all I have to do is look up my self to confirm weird patterns

You also claim:


I donno what they are spraying, but they are spraying something


I have given the explanation of what you claim are "weird patterns". They are not weird or planned patterns, they are following the flightpath of an airplane which is flying in that direction.
As to your claim "they are spraying something", how do you know? Have you seen credible tests? Or are you basing it on the easily debunked persistence?
Without tests of the kind proposed by the OP, you cannot "know" you can only guess.
I've looked into the science, read some of the tests discussed, and know there is jet fuel exhaust and that is all


Well you must have been the top of your class eh?
Yes what I see with my own two eyes is real sherlock lol
Yes I claim that what I see, I see, and in fact is what I claim.
How old are you, ten?

Look if you notice this notice you will notice that this notice is not worth noticing.

You off your rocker?


reply posted on 29-1-2011 @ 07:22 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by Rigel Kent



I know they carried out experiments in the UK, barium sulphate is a new one for me though...

You may like this link:

www.nr23.net...


reply posted on 30-1-2011 @ 03:48 PM by network dude
reply to post by Rigel Kent



everyone agrees that it has happened. It may even happen again in the future for some reason, but what I believe is that when you look up in the sky and see lots of con trails, that does not mean that "they" have been spraying all day. If you look around this site, you will see that anybody with a camera seems to be a chemtrail scientists. (self proclaimed) Con trails are what is being seen and photographed all day, every day.
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