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Originally posted by dontreally
Mandness in my soul.
I refuse to respond to any more of your points, or put up with your nonsense.
Considering your name is "madness in my soul", it is not an attack on your character, but a basic deduction made from your username.
You chose to call yourself madnessinmysoul. Thus, i imagine you must think that characterizes your personality in some shape or form.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
Ad hominem attack again! madnessinmysoul is a username, it reflected the turmoil I had over choosing a religious preference...in November of 2005!
HEB 13:11 The high priest carries the blood of animals into the Most Holy Place as a sin offering, but the bodies are burned outside the camp. 12 And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. 13 Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he bore. 14 For here we do not have an enduring city, but we are looking for the city that is to come.
LEV 26:1 " `Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.
EX 20:24 " `Make an altar of earth for me and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, your sheep and goats and your cattle. Wherever I cause my name to be honored, I will come to you and bless you. 25 If you make an altar of stones for me, do not build it with dressed stones, for you will defile it if you use a tool on it. 26 And do not go up to my altar on steps, lest your nakedness be exposed on it.'
It seems as if Islam really doesn't want the Jewish Messiah to come.
Then there are the rather disturbing similarities between the Muslim Mahdi and the Christian Anti-Christ. To see this concept explored in depth: www.abovetopsecret.com... This is one of the best eschatology threads I've seen on ATS and my post is by and large a response to something I believe they missed.
I also pointed out that the anti-christ description in Islamic prophecy closely matches that of biblical prophecy...That the Anti-christ will be blind in the right eye and have a damaged arm as mentioned in Zechariah 11:17. The mahdi is not one eyed, Isa is not one eyed. Only the anti-christ is one eyed. So there can be no confusion on this matter!! So, it is clearly established that both muslims and christians identify a one eyed anti-christ, therefore it is utterly absurd to think that the one eyed anti-christ is actually the same person as the mahdi, who is clearly a seperate person in the Koran.. Also both islamic and christian eschatology believe that the virgin born messiah destroys an anti-christ, thereby it completely wrecks the notion that the Islamic Mahdi(who fights the AC alongside Jesus) is actually the anti-christ.
Jews have not been allowed to ascend the Temple Mount since the building of the dome of the Rock.. For a Jew to even to pray near it drew condemnation from the Waqf, and if they persisted, they would be killed.
Today for instance, religious Jews are not allowed to pray on their temple mount.
Temple Mount From Wikipedia
Due to its extreme sanctity, many Jews will not walk on the Mount itself, to avoid unintentionally entering the area where the Holy of Holies stood, since according to Rabbinical law, some aspect of the Divine Presence is still present at the site. It was from the Holy of Holies that the High Priest communicated directly with God.
What is left for them?
It's by their own standard of holiness that they can't walk on the site.
They already had their third temple, built by their Messiah Herod, anointed as 'king of the Jews" by the Roman god Jupiter on the Capitoline Hill in Rome. Jupiter has had his day. That third temple has already been destroyed by Rome. It's over, finished.
You also seem to be a little bit ignorant.
Herods "temple" was an ADDITION to the already existan 2nd temple. It was not the 3rd temple.
What the hell are you talking about here? Jupiter anointed king herod as the king of the Jews? Really?! when did this happen?
Herod fled to Rome to plead with the Romans to restore him to power. There he was elected "King of the Jews" by the Roman Senate. 40 BCE
Herod the Great From Wikipedia
Is there some magic prophecy about the "third temple" lasting forever or something? Why the insistence on calling some new future temple "the third"
Zarubbabel's temple was completely disassembled, the foundation was raised up 15 ft. A new temple was built. Third Temple.
4) Hadrian's Temple to Jupiter built 130 CE 5) Emperor Julian II's temple, 363 Rebuilding work began, but was ended by the Galilee earthquake of 363
In Judaism, the Temple draws down the presence of God into this world. The temple is "microcosm", and following cosmic principles, the physical structure built on the land believed to be the interface, or "threshold" between the spiritual and physical dimension, becomes a "Mold" of the transfusion of divine energy and the divine beneficence which comes into this dimension, influencing the human collective unconscious, essentially motivating a certain standard of behavior.
This is the basic kabbalistic theory of why the Temple is important, and why the certain dimensions of the temple is the basic "mold" the divine energy that will enter the world.
And this AWEsome Yahweh character, greater than all Elohim, is powerless to do anything good without people killing other people so that a manmade temple of stone can "Mold" the divine energy? That sure sounds like a fraudulent deity to me.
And the 500 years of the 2nd temple, before Herod disassembled it for his third temple, was not sufficient for the "greatness" to come about? No!
Whats wrong with you? This is not Fact! OK! Look! 2nd Temple stood 20 years longer than Solomons temple.
Harods Temple was mere addition, or a renovation of an ALREADY existent Temple. Get that through your thick conspiracy husked skull!
Second Temple From Wikipedia
In 20 BCE, Herod announced that the old temple would be torn down and replaced with something truly magnificent. The Kohanim, or Jewish priesthood, as well as the rest of the population, were skeptical, requiring Herod to quarry all the stones required for the project before the destruction of the Post-Exile structure could begin.
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To complete it, a trench was dug around the mountain, and huge stone "bricks" were laid. Some of these weighed well over 100 tons, the largest measuring 44.6 feet by 11 feet by 16.5 feet and weighing approximately 567 to 628 tons, while most were in the range of 2.5 by 3.5 by 15 feet (approximately 28 tons).
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As the mountainside began to rise, the western side was carved away to a vertical wall and bricks were carved to create a virtual continuation of the brick face, which was continued for a while until the northern slope reached ground level.
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The project began with the building of giant underground vaults upon which the temple would be built so it could be larger than the small flat area on top of Mount Moriah. Ground level at the time was at least 20 ft. (6m) below the current level, as can be seen by walking the Western Wall tunnels. The edge of this platform remains everywhere; part of it forms the Western Wall.
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Legend has it that the construction of the entire complex lasted only three years, but other sources such as Josephus say that it took far longer, although the Temple itself may have taken that long.
Whatever "prophecy, or numerology, or black magic," or plain feverish nightmare that keeps insisting on a third temple is over, done with, dead on arrival.
Why are you so bothered by this?? What does it matter? It doesnt affect you.