Who is Pete Zalewski and why would he be part of some plot?

Originally posted by OllyP
reply to post by hooper

 

The transparency is delightful. I hope everyone takes note of how you dragged the holocaust into this discussion.

Just priceless.

Sorry, you're a little late to the party. The Holocaust was "dragged" into this when the OP linked to an article written by Christopher Bollyn, a well known Holocaust denier.

Originally posted by OllyP
Thankyou Kev and Alfie for actually addressing the Op's question.

Some people are not accomplished researchers and come to this website to garner knowledge from ATS's many experts.
If we all had the same ability to research and the same logic and opinions, this website would not exist.

I come here to learn. Some of you think that people should only post here if they have all the facts and have done hundreds of hours of research or you will redicule them.

ATS's motto is "deny ignorance" I come here with much ignorance hoping that I will be helped to deny it. Attacking people for being ignorant is not what the site is about.

exactly thats all these debunkers do all day attack ppl because they are clutching at straws, i honestly have no idea why they waste their time here were here because we want to know the truth of what happened some of the comments by these resident debunkers are pathetic and an insult to every 911 victim

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Not a bad OP and can't add anything other than google which I guess you used. The replies and logic on this thread however is another story altogether. I would suggest certain members get banned for not denying ignorance and all that implies.

The link in the OP does not look good what with large 'Jews did it" banner but there is lots of information on there and ATS is all about helping each other out and looking at things from both sides. Well to be sure there are people replying who just seem to be mud-raking and taking the easy superficial way out.

9/11 was an inside job, its all about the speed and how the towers fell, plus 7, links available on ATS

Peace

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If you think that anybody who accuses the Mossad of anything is a Nazi we will have to agree to disagree. I dont know where you got this that Israel is the homeland of the jews. Read the bible, there were jews before there was an Israel. Now guess where they were before. Every Rabbi will tell you that Israel is just that, a state no more the prosmised land than any other state, because the current state of Israel isnt linked in any way to the Messiah, which has yet to come.

I just wanted to discuss this Pete guy, because the source did not exactly came across as unbiased and objective, to put it mildly.

It never ceases to amaze me. Anybody discussing the Ashkenazi Zionists involved with the illegal occupation of the land about to be renamed Palestine and its neighbor Israel leads to passionate discourse in which many are spouting opinion base upon either MSM, or Mossad, or CIA. THat land was the Hebrews when God delivered them from Egypt, I believe he promised them that land through prophecy and I believe that Judah lost that land through fulfillment of prophecy. But Israelis and most believing Jews follow the Talmud not the Torah anyway. According to the Harris Poll 66% of Israelis don't believe in GOd anyway. Strange number. I believe coincidence. The Talmud is a great book of Jewish Traditional belief. How else would I have know that Jesus was a magician born to a prostitute lolita named Mary who slept with various carpenters. Or that God needs the permission of Rabbis to act.
However, in FACT as far as the promises go, and I am not Catholic but this Christian principal according to the NT, is steadfast. [url=http://rt.com...]
On the contrary, the members of the Lord's Church are the New Israel; and Jesus said the day will come when you will worship in spirit and truth from anywhere in the world not just Jerusalem. He promised that to the lady at the well. The Apostle Paul said Christians were grafted in. Put that in your shofar and smoke it John Hagee, a Zionist sayanim. That means the roots are Jewish but the tree that bears good fruit is the New Israel and the New Israel is made up of Arabs, Chinese, whoever accepts the already came Messiah to be Jesus, Yeshua, you split hairs over the name I am not.
The map of the Middle East was created by Churchill, and it led to the rise of Saddam Hussein and the wars in which American troops have been in since then. By denying the desire of subject peoples to rule themselves, Winston Churchill put together the pieces left from the Ottoman Empire and created a Middle Eastern powder keg. SOooo The British had Palestine and told Rothschild and those who wanted a Jewish state they would give them that worthless rock. THey looked to give them land in Africa and other places too. The French had Syria but told the Zionists no. Israel and the Bible fit the propoganda line to well. THat is a FACT. Anybody who has taken any British Colonialism class would know that one. But they have their story and the resources of this worthless rock, like the $75 bottles of dead sea salt at our malls any numbskull can buy. If they didn't have the stories they tell about the Holy Land their GDP would go down significantly. "Hey what works for Disney," said Eisner, "will work for Israel." There's a great example of natural resources for you.
It is believed that that is the "Jewish Land." Some will say it is a democratic sectarian state some will not. It depends where in the world you are and who is talking. There is lots of newspeak and doubletalk in this area. The opinion controlled here in the United States is by the MSM and would have Americans to believe faith. In the EU it is sectarian. FOX and CNN both are polarizing Americans like sheep being led apart for the shearing in this area and really, what the eff do we care what happens to the state of Israel? They have no resources that are important to us. They constantly spy on us, monitor us, what have you. It is a FACT, not OPINION, that the men that own and or run the various news outlets are in FACT JEWISH and have dual citizenships. That is where one of the many problems lay. Why on earth would you want dual citizenship? Tell me. Answer me. I would like for once somebody to explain why on earth these people from all the other countries in the world and all the immigrants from Asia, Europe, Africa and non of them may claim dual citizenship. Not even Liberians who are descendents of former Americans may claim dual citizenship. Our Native Mexican distant brothers south of the border can barely get a pass to work here. They have to sneak in. But these Zionists do it right in front of everybody's faces. Just this small band of people. In my opinion it is racism and it is smoke and mirrors. They want the benefit and power of the socialist outlfow of American Tax Payer Money* to that little blister on the ass of Human Advancement to flow unimpeded. These people are like plumbers. They maintain the pipes that keep that $5 Billion US annually going to their little criminal country's coffers so they can buy weapons and get kickbacks. THat is why. They are the biggest customers to Lockheed-Martin, GE, Colt Arms, Boeing, GMC, and so on and so forth in the name of National Defense. Wake up. THat is the key to Israel. That $5 Billion is rerouted and laundered back into the US MIC coffers. Israel is only allowed to spend on defense. SO they need $5 Billion to protect themselves from some little Arab boys with rocks or else all they have are their cars to run over Arabs.

Have you ever thought about why do the "terrorists" rarely attack in Tel Aviv where the govenrment sits. Always a soft target like a mall, market, or cafe. SOFT TARGETS. Why not a checkpoint? Why nothing strategic? A HARD TARGET. A check point... we would be like, eh? it is a miltary operation, it is war. That is exactly how we respond when it is a sniper. But the Mossad needs political support under the guise of sympathy to keep that money coming from the US and the EU and soft targets gain sympathy more. Think about it.
This has dirty written all over it. Always some helpless little mall or market. It is simple, it is easy as a consumer to empathize with stricken consumers at malls. Malls? How dare they invade the shrines of capitalism. I go to a mall with my family and children. What if that happened here? GIve them more money to protect themselves from those Arab dogs. Wait according to the Talmud all Gentiles are dogs too, so when is it our time? Maybe it is already happened. Maybe that is what the OP is asking. Maybe it is his or her first time seeing this angle. I tell you this there are lot of veterans and very high ranking police officers and officials who feel this way but are staying silent. FOr now, they have told me. You see this onslaught against Islam and terrorism is a Trojan Horse my friends. Some see it and some don't. You are being duped and warned against the ANti-Semite, terrorist, when I was little it was the boogie-man. How about un-American? How about that? THe Israeli treatment of a Palestinian is very un-American, FACT. I always wondered why the PLO and the IRA exchanged intel and technique, then I got older and caught on, the Crown and Oppression. It is really as simple as keep the Palestinians volatile, supply them with the occasional weapon from Syria and Iran and Hezbollah, and the area stays in conflict and Israel needs protection and the MIC + The Fed has the US Congress by the neck and the proverbials and Netanyahu and Lieberman and Cheney and Carlysle, etc alledgedly get kickbacks from this money. CHeney is worth so much to the MIC they just paid a $250million bribe to Nigeria to keep him plumbing. FASCISM is sad. And lets see if Hyman Roth, I mean joe Lieberman, one of the funnel's architects retires back to his state of Connecticut or if he goes to Israel and lives off said funneled money in his Swiss Bank Account. ANd NO its not all the Jews of Israel or the US many stand against them. And want distance becasue they ABHOR their actions and remember holocausts of the Nazis and the wait a second the Bolshevik Jews led by Lenin that killed the Tsar and his family. Don't forget thos 6-7 million. And NO! the Jews that are guilty of this are not the only criminals they have those who have aided and abetted them who are not Jews. And yes THEY are Jews. Not all Jews but that Zionist Regime in Israel and Washington DC. If they do not want to be recognized and singled out as Jews then stay away from the ADL, AIPAC and etc and stand as individuals. It is they who intially designate themselves as Jews. I admire the brave attitude and efforts by Norman Finkelstein in this area. I am not an antisemite No more than a member of the KKK just because I feel that half of all the governements in Africa are Kleptocracies. I am neither. I love everyone but I hate the tyrant. THis is sad to see people digress the facts and get into a race baiting match to discredit what the OP was doing. Asking a simple question. Is this source of info credible. It is of the spirit of this website and an open society to discuss info without the threat of insult on one's intellilect and pursuit of denying ignorance. In that there is the pathetic troll and his role or the shill or the sayanim. Probably too much John Hagee on Free access TV. Protect AND LOVE your Neighbor. Abhor injustices. DOn't be led to slaughter.
*economists put the figure at 70% of all US tax money goes to social programmes.
Note"When I was back in college late 90s after the Navy I had discovered the internet and I was hooked to the University's T1 in my apartment, and I was hooked . I was formerly in US Naval Intel in the first Gulf War and always wondered what this deal with the Mossad always around was. We were told they were observing to make sure we were doing our best to keep the scuds out of range. I had nothing to do with scuds more with a solution to CNN and its free "intel" using Halliburton's Brown and Root and vacationed in DIego-Garcia, haha. I digress. SO in college I started doing all this research on Israel and our AID. James Carville, I believe always said something like follow the money stupid, etc. I had compiled probably about 250 pages or so of info from AP/Reuters/ MSM websites FOreign Affairs etc. I mean I would skip classes somedays and be on the internet for 2-3 days at a time. Then they freely published everything from Policy to AID, to weapons purchases and amounts. I mean it was all right there in front of our faces. 9/11 Changed everything. Long stoiry short I dated a girl in one of my classes from Israel and she was hot. She stayed the night with me afer a couple of weeks, We sat up all night drinking wine and looking at stuff on the interenet and I opened a drawer and she saw that 6 ponted blue star i drew on the outside of a folder she asked what is that . I kind of told her. I told her it was a project. THe next morning while iwas in the shower she poked her head in and said she had to go. SHe told me it didnt work out and never would talk to me in class again. We talked all day everyday. SHe took my folder and I never confronted her. The maintenace men always stole stuff from my apartment . I couldnt accuse her to her face.

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I do not think prophecy entitels anybody to a legal claim over any land. Nobody in the world of politics is making the claim. Might makes right. The people who conquered Israel should be able to live free from Terrorism the same way the people who conquered America from the natives do or the people who conquered Australia or New Zealand from the Natives. If everybody embraces terrorism then its a never ending string of acts of terrors that does not come to an end.

By the same token, if the Israelis should lose Israel due to a military defeat and the victors are accepted as the new owners of that land by the global community, former Israelis shouldnt engage in suicide bombings either and I am sure they wont.

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I tried to cover all bases of the argument and in the world of smoke and mirrors politicians are pretty pieces out front just as much are preachers and rabbis. There are, what we would call radical religious elements, within Israel who are declaring that God gave the tribes of Israel that land. Netanyahu refuses to hault construction in those outter settlements based upon those refusing to leave. So while people see Netanyahu and or his party stating they will not hault settlements and appearing in control you better look a little deeper. It is those orthodox settlers catalyzing those statements and it is the MIC supplying them arms.
I disagree with you about conquerors. This is no World of Warcraft or PC shoot em up...this is real life. Not to degrade your opinion but you should put that into context quickly. Are you gonna lay down? Are you gonna sell out the brothers and sisters of your land in the name of the conquerors? In what form do you down?
One last thing, mossad openly and illegally kills, murders, assasinates politicians in foreign land and has no problem stealing identities of innocent individuals. So I am sure you are merely ignorant and trolling or are speaking from emotion rather than logic or knowledge.

Originally posted by sirjunlegun
reply to post by Cassius666

 

I tried to cover all bases of the argument and in the world of smoke and mirrors politicians are pretty pieces out front just as much are preachers and rabbis. There are, what we would call radical religious elements, within Israel who are declaring that God gave the tribes of Israel that land. Netanyahu refuses to hault construction in those outter settlements based upon those refusing to leave. So while people see Netanyahu and or his party stating they will not hault settlements and appearing in control you better look a little deeper. It is those orthodox settlers catalyzing those statements and it is the MIC supplying them arms.
I disagree with you about conquerors. This is no World of Warcraft or PC shoot em up...this is real life. Not to degrade your opinion but you should put that into context quickly. Are you gonna lay down? Are you gonna sell out the brothers and sisters of your land in the name of the conquerors? In what form do you down?
One last thing, mossad openly and illegally kills, murders, assasinates politicians in foreign land and has no problem stealing identities of innocent individuals. So I am sure you are merely ignorant and trolling or are speaking from emotion rather than logic or knowledge.

edit on 28-1-2011 by sirjunlegun because: (no reason given)

Yes its real life and in reali life America Australia Israel and other terrirtorries belongs to the pepople who were able to take and hold them by force or other means. I am not as familiar with the world of warcraft game as you are, so I cant really comment on that. Also this has gone way off topic.

Is there any indication that Pete is anything but an ordinary air traffic coordinator?

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Is there any indication that Pete is anything but an ordinary air traffic coordinator?

Would appear not, agreed?

Anybody?

Originally posted by Cassius666Is there any indication that Pete is anything but an ordinary air traffic coordinator?

As I've already pointed out: No.

I'm surprised this thread has even run this long, even after it was pointed out that NY ARTCC was in control of EA990 at the time of its crash, so Pete Zalewski couldn't have been 'controlling' it at the time.