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Google begins censoring BitTorrent, RapidShare and other Big Media profanity

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posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
reply to post by badw0lf
 


My mistake. I was thinking of the sites that actually host the torrents when I made my comment.

Either way, everybody knows that the vast majority of people who download BitTorrent are doing so to download illegal and copyrighted material.

Therefore, that will be why google are blocking it in their suggestion box, as the latest terms being mentioned in the OP, that are being blocked, are related to the illegal downloading of material.



Depends what country you're in. In many countries it's absolutely legal. Only in overtly Capitalist nations, where big business makes the rules, is it against the rules.




posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 12:34 AM
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I call BS on this article, just type any of those words into google and you will see they have not been filtered. Maybe in some obscure way they filtered these websites but as for their main search engines they do not filter it at this time. If you doubt this, I encourage you to try it



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 12:46 AM
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Scroogle
Info page

Startpage
Info page



edit on 28-1-2011 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 12:47 AM
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It's time to apply the Alternative P2P Wireless Internet Network:

www.masternewmedia.org...

If that ever comes to fruition you can bet certain companies and the government will be there to stop it.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 03:34 AM
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Thanks, but that's not at all what I meant at all. I'm quite familiar with Boolean logic and how to enter a search argument or string. This goes beyond that and has to to with "marketing" and the all the irrelevant keywords page developers and those people making thousands of dollars at home are putting in. More and more often one or more of the words doesn't appear anywhere in the returned results or in the cached pages. But now that I type this my logic about the reasons might not be right...it's more a theory. It might not be Google only that has this issue , although it doesn't seem to be happening when I use other search engines.


edit on 1/28/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 03:36 AM
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Ok, here's something that you all might like. It's called Scroogle. Go to scroogle.org and download the add on. I know it works for Firefox but I'm not sure about Internet Explorer, Safari, etc. And forget about Chrome! There is another program called Tor that might come in handy, torproject.org. I tried to figure out how to get it onto Ubuntu but unfortunately I lack the technical knowhow to verify the pure form which doesn't have a back door. Maybe these will, maybe not but I think they are worth looking at. Also, startpage.com is a good alternative search engine although I don't use it.
edit on 01/19/2011 by JayTee because: spelling/grammar/clarification



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 03:40 AM
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Oh snap! I guess I should have read all of the posts! Those are the links to startpage and scroogle.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 04:33 AM
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I'm not too worried about this sort of thing because people usually move on to something better when companies try to restrict search results. What was more worrisome were those sites that were completely removed from the IP registry by the government a couple months back: www.ditii.com...



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 04:51 AM
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Sheer laziness and lack of imagination by MPAA and RIAA.

They could have implimented ways to exploit the Internet media but they just want to throw their weight around.

They could make high quality movies and series available suppoted by advertising or for a small subscription fee and blow torrents quality away forever but they would rather go legal.

When I see a movie at the theatre or hire a DVD how much of the fee do they really get...
...Internet distribution would be a much better deal for them or additional revenue...
...how many people could access their product who can't get to theatres or hire places?



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by NadaCambia
 


Thanks, but that's not at all what I meant at all. I'm quite familiar with Boolean logic and how to enter a search argument or string. This goes beyond that and has to to with "marketing" and the all the irrelevant keywords page developers and those people making thousands of dollars at home are putting in. More and more often one or more of the words doesn't appear anywhere in the returned results or in the cached pages. But now that I type this my logic about the reasons might not be right...it's more a theory. It might not be Google only that has this issue , although it doesn't seem to be happening when I use other search engines.


edit on 1/28/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)


You're right, it isn't Google itself. It's marketers and business 'manipulating' Google if you will. I know because I am a marketer, and have knowledge naturally of how to rank and manipulate, while abiding by Googles guidelines.

The problem is there really is no other way. These lesser known search engines can provide a more pure and natural service, for no other reason than the fact they're small. People ignore them, nobody bothers to exploit them. If they were to ever become popular, marketers and business would identify and exploit their service as a traffic source.

There's nothing users can do other than familiarising themselfs with the search engine and their finer tools. Google is still without question a fantastic search engine, one of the largest and most comprehensive to boot. And sure they suck, because they dominate competitors, outright. Regardless, I still feel they're unquestioned one of the strongest search engine providers on the internet. And don't like the growing trend of the service being rubbished, because its spearheaded by big business scum.

Ultimately I just don't get Google search catching flack. I understand it for what they are as a business, but the service itself is second to none.

Google are awful. But the Google search engine is practically unrivaled. I honestly believe that.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by JayTee
Ok, here's something that you all might like. It's called Scroogle. Go to scroogle.org and download the add on. I know it works for Firefox but I'm not sure about Internet Explorer, Safari, etc. And forget about Chrome! There is another program called Tor that might come in handy, torproject.org. I tried to figure out how to get it onto Ubuntu but unfortunately I lack the technical knowhow to verify the pure form which doesn't have a back door. Maybe these will, maybe not but I think they are worth looking at. Also, startpage.com is a good alternative search engine although I don't use it.
edit on 01/19/2011 by JayTee because: spelling/grammar/clarification


Everything you do is watched and stored by somebody. Scroogle isn't the anwser. Buy a VPN if you really care.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 06:43 AM
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I'm not having any trouble at all, in bringing up search results for rapidshare or torrent files.
In fact I'm getting very specific results for what I'm looking for.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 06:56 AM
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Go to Scroogle's website, you might be surprised. They don't save any cookies, all results are saved on their servers, no search terms are saved, and all logs are deleted within 48 hours. That's a pretty good start if you want to use Google but not have yourself tracked. Plus, when you get to the results page of Scroogle, there's no extra bs or advertisements.
edit on 28-1-2011 by JayTee because: originally said "everything", changed to "all results" which is what i should have said



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 07:07 AM
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Great news!

Now Google can watch it's profit margins slowly dwindle downwards, while independent specialised search engines can see their exponentially rise!

Great move Google...now, let's see what your major shareholders have to say about it, when their dividend cheques are a bit lighter shall we?

Morons.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by JayTee
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Go to Scroogle's website, you might be surprised. They don't save any cookies, all results are saved on their servers, no search terms are saved, and all logs are deleted within 48 hours. That's a pretty good start if you want to use Google but not have yourself tracked. Plus, when you get to the results page of Scroogle, there's no extra bs or advertisements.
edit on 28-1-2011 by JayTee because: originally said "everything", changed to "all results" which is what i should have said


I don't believe a word of it.

There's *numerous* sources that claim Google is a puppet of PTB, and runs back and reports on web users who use their service.

In any case, i have no time for censorship, so i'll be using alternative search services, that are not in bed with PTB thanks.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 09:32 AM
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One of my pet peeve's with Google is Google Analytics.

People/Governments buy that service to find out WHO goes to their websites and what other websites those people go to.

I quit using Google. I don't like their evil money making scheme. I use Duckduckgo for now. almost nobody uses it.

We need a new internet. I liked that previous post where a new internet could be created from connecting people's wifi's.

I imagine smart people have created their own networks/internets. Think the FCC would ever catch someone connecting computers using HAM radios and transmitting data using sound frequencies inaudible to humans? I doubt they would ever catch it.

New internets will be created. Corporate control/Government censorship over this internet is pushing it.

ICANN is a joke. Everyone knows they are controlled by us. Look at the websites "DontServe" or "DoNotServe.com". Somebody bought those websites and has been sitting on them for years never planning on using them. It's your government suppressing Free Speech and the internet.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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I'm almost positive (in my mind) that a few months ago (maybe six?) Google Analytics got hacked pretty badly or was testing "something" that affected and blocked access to a lot of cleaners and security applications. It lasted a long time too, over a month. I had it consistently traced to them and then got blocked. Analytics collects a whole lot more than we can probably imagine, and it wouldn't surprise me a bit to hear that the government was directly involved. .



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by JayTee
reply to post by NadaCambia
 


Go to Scroogle's website, you might be surprised. They don't save any cookies, all results are saved on their servers, no search terms are saved, and all logs are deleted within 48 hours. That's a pretty good start if you want to use Google but not have yourself tracked. Plus, when you get to the results page of Scroogle, there's no extra bs or advertisements.
edit on 28-1-2011 by JayTee because: originally said "everything", changed to "all results" which is what i should have said


What I meant was if you want to by anonymous, why not use proxies and hide your identity fullstop? If you're serious about not being tracked, you'd do alot more than use Scroogle
Practically every popular browser stores information. Your ISP more often than not 'track' you.

Regardless, Scroogle is woefully inadequet for anyone serious about their searching. That 'extra bs' is what puts Google above the others. There's a reason 'extra bs' was added. It's because Google of 1997 sucked.

Nobody was ever forced to click on a Google advertisment. People seem to be anti-Google for the sake of it. It's an ad hominen in essence. Denying their service is above and beyond others, simply because they're a big corporate entity that's destroying the internet.

You can use Google and enjoy anonymity(with proxies). Scroogle cannot hold a candle to Google search.

More importantly, as an internet marketer, Googles stored information is what keeps me in a job. There's nothing sinister about search data being stored. Unless I've missed something?



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by spikey

Originally posted by JayTee
reply to post by NadaCambia
 


Go to Scroogle's website, you might be surprised. They don't save any cookies, all results are saved on their servers, no search terms are saved, and all logs are deleted within 48 hours. That's a pretty good start if you want to use Google but not have yourself tracked. Plus, when you get to the results page of Scroogle, there's no extra bs or advertisements.
edit on 28-1-2011 by JayTee because: originally said "everything", changed to "all results" which is what i should have said


I don't believe a word of it.

There's *numerous* sources that claim Google is a puppet of PTB, and runs back and reports on web users who use their service.

In any case, i have no time for censorship, so i'll be using alternative search services, that are not in bed with PTB thanks.


Your concerns would be valid if not for the fact you support Assange. Who's been reported by numerous sources to be a puppet of the PTB.




posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
reply to post by badw0lf
 


My mistake. I was thinking of the sites that actually host the torrents when I made my comment.

Either way, everybody knows that the vast majority of people who download BitTorrent are doing so to download illegal and copyrighted material.

Therefore, that will be why google are blocking it in their suggestion box, as the latest terms being mentioned in the OP, that are being blocked, are related to the illegal downloading of material.



I actually downloaded a free online game a few years back that used a torrent system.

I disagree, you cannot make the technology illegal because it is used a certain way. MP3's were once the bogey man stick, and now theyre everywhere. The bit torrent technology is just a means to an end.

Crap, I can send my mates a 16gb sd card in the mail, are we going to make postal mail illegal next?

Bollocks...Oo



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