Dugway Army Base On Lockdown

This was posted on his “ask me a question“ thread on the site that shall not be named.
I doubt he it Lee ermey, just maybe someone he looks up to.
and he uses Lee Ermys pic as an avatar.

It’s probably useless info but you never know.

reply to post by Whateva69

Lee Ermey is a former Marine drill instructor
as well as an actor.

en.wikipedia.org...

thanks for bringin that up

and for those who don't know.
Lee Ermey has been in the political news lately.
You may remember him saying this.

In late December 2010, Ermey used a Toys for Tots rally to criticize the Obama administration's economic policies, stating that it was difficult to raise money for the charity because the "economy sucks" and went on to say:

"We should all rise up, and we should stop this administration from what they're doing because they're destroying this country. They’re driving us into bankruptcy so that they can impose socialism on us, and that’s exactly what they’re doing, and I’m sick and damn tired of it and I know you are too."[2]

Ermey subsequently apologized on his website

that quote is from the wiki link

reply to post by boondock-saint


Oh I knew that, my husband met him when he was testing the M1A1's

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This sounds like fun for the people stuck in the base

reply to post by boondock-saint

Just speculative associations based arround the points you made also in the other place he had posted about sensative submarine systems......

Nothing concreate to go on just drawing circles and lines just that a few of them connect to him.
Need something more substantial.

(sorry about being afk for so long had lots of other stuff to do,about to have supper too)

Not sure if this was posted, but here's a local news report after the event with some folks giving their story of the lockdown.. also a video news clip available.

Dugway says lockdown caused by 'serious mishandling' of nerve agent

DUGWAY -- Using phrases such as "administrative error," "a serious mishandling of our agents" and "unfortunate oversight," the U.S. Army Thursday said a 13-hour lockdown at Dugway Proving Ground was prompted by an internal error.

A mislabeled one milliliter vial of the nerve agent VX, or less than 1/4 teaspoon, that could not be found during a routine inventory check resulted in the base being locked down from approximately 5:25 p.m. Wednesday until 7 a.m. Thursday.

**** Just some interesting facts****

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GENERAL FOGLEMAN IS ALSO A TRUSTEE OF MITRE &
He is Chairman on the board of directors at ALLIANT,on BOD @ MESA & AAR. ALLIANT was a subsidary of honeywell but it was spun off into a seperate company.Alliant owns Thiokol.

Hes also associated with "MESA" their run flights from & to Utah & (lol) "Roswell"
Six other carriers competed against Mesa: Air Midwest, Sun West Airlines, Pioneer Airlines, Jet Air, Trans-Colorado Airlines and Airways of New Mexico. As fare wars erupted between the carriers, Mesa was able to survive...(hrmm well considering all things im not supprised the other companys were unable to survive)

The company (Alliant) produces a number of controversial military products, including cluster bombs and depleted uranium rounds

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"THIOKOL has facilitys in.......UTAH"

".......2005, Thiokol wins the contract to produce the Ares I launch vehicle first stage for NASA's Project Constellation....."

(side note giffords (as i posted in either this thread or annother) recently interviewed the NASA Administrator over the constelation programme

Products made by the aerospace divisions of RMI and Thiokol include motors used in Subroc, the Pershing missile, the Peacekeeper missile, Poseidon missile, Minuteman missile, and the Trident I and Trident II missiles. Thiokol produces powerplants for numerous U.S. military missile systems, including AIM-9 Sidewinder, AGM-88 HARM, AGM-65 Maverick, AGM-69 SRAM, and AIR-2 Genie.
Model 601 U.S.A.F. Thiokol Snowcat

Thiokol also produced a variety of liquid and solid rocket motors for the US space program, including deorbit motors for the Mercury and Gemini programs, rocket stages and separation rocket motors for the Apollo program, motors for the Pioneer, Surveyor, Viking, Voyager, and Magellan missions, updated CASTOR boosters for the Delta rocket, and the Space Shuttle Solid Rocket Booster. Reaction Motors powerplants propelled the X-1 and X-15 aircraft, and later Thiokol technologies were also used in the private Tier One manned spaceplane. On March 1, 2006, NASA announced that Thiokol will be the prime contractor for the new Crew Launch Vehicle (CLV), to be known as the Ares I, which will put the Orion spacecraft (formerly known as the "Crew Exploration Vehicle") into low earth orbit, along with the five-segment SRBs for the heavy-lift Cargo Launch Vehicle (CaLV), known as the Ares V.


Note: (He would also have access to both systems,but is not drawing as much interest form myself as the admiral)

reply to post by JacKatMtn

reading from that it sounds just like Thiokol's polymers.
Has the supposed found VX been tested to ensure that what was placed into a wrong container was in fact THE VX?

Hmm.. Dugway.. Lockdown.... UFO LANDING??!?

I mean lets not fully dismiss the possibility... Maybe an extra-terrestrial exchange of words may have occurred which led to them locking down the base to debrief all staff and let them know not to repeat anything outside of the gates...

Originally posted by AutOmatIc
I am however quite skeptical of this "Informant" though, and have only been taking the information with a grain of salt. It is my opinion that he/she is either a really good troll who knows how to look stuff up on the interwebz (data mining) and can invent amazing Tom Clancy-esque fiction, a Psyops disinfo spook, or used to be in the Intelligence community and knows a few things about how it works and uses this knowledge to have fun with ppl...take your pick.

Oh lemme pick "use this knowledge to have fun with ppl."

Yeah like that one

SiPRNET access portal... nic dot mil

JWICS Portal www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil...

Have fun but don't be stupid

Mind you... you DO need a DoD access card and have to be coming from a .mil site to get anywhere

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let me just pull out the uplink for it from my 2400lb 5 dimensional tardis pocket LOL

Originally posted by kismetphayze

Originally posted by theartistchick

I am honestly a little shocked at the way it panned out though. I'm an article writer who likes to do some investigative research when I get intrigued by an interesting story.
I almost choked the next morning though when I saw it WAS VX nerve gas that was missing. So many of these conspiracies go no where.... and this one did....
WOW.

I know what you mean....even when I believe something is true, I'm still a little shocked when it actually manifests.

Good work!

Thanks. I have heard that the girl did not lose her job, was written up though. They searched people even after the VX was found, which seems a little odd, When I asked my husband about it though he said they were probably just taking extra security precautions.
There is speculation that the nerve gas story may have not been released though if it hadn't been for the tweet.

I have been following the other forum too where the poster says the VX was not found. I don't have anything solid to believe him though. The poster there seems like a publicity hound, talks the right lingo but I think he's just stringing people along.

We may never know, sadly, unless something bad happens and then it likes "whoops, we realized we HAD NOT found all the VX nerve gas folks"... So SORRY about that...

makes you go hmm and wonder, doesn't it?

Has this been posted? It is news to me. Note the date and time.

www.fox8.com...

"Dangerous material" found in a Summit County, Ohio home. Story posted just after midnight on January 26.

I didn't have much time on the computer yesterday and now I'm completely lost. Are some of you saying that you have a theory about who Jackwagon might be? ...and if so, what makes you think that? I've tried to catch up on some of the threads, but now with all the talk of role playing and all that, I can't seem to figure out if there's a consensus opinion...maybe there isn't one. I can't even keep the theories straight anymore.

Anybody willing to do a quick summary to get me up to speed? I did read the last few pages of each thread to try to catch up, but I really don't want to have to go back and read every single post I missed spread across a variety of different threads.

OK first off, long time lurker and avid follower but first time poster, to the OP BRAVO and CONGRATULATIONS you have created the thread to finally make me post, great scoop, btw it takes DAYS now to read all the posts to catch up but well worth the time!! S&F

Secondly, EXCELLENT work ATS'ers, the way you all contributed was simply amazing to read, very nice work, congrats to all of you as well, your excellent detective work also contributed to me actually throwing in a post.

Now...

Originally posted by DogsDogsDogs
Has this been posted? It is news to me. Note the date and time.

www.fox8.com...

"Dangerous material" found in a Summit County, Ohio home. Story posted just after midnight on January 26.

Wow, that is VERY interesting. I did find it strange that they said "They recognized the substance as a potentially lethal material and immediately contacted the FBI." and then shortly after this they state ""We certainly won't disclose what we think it might be because it's only speculation. We want to make sure it's dangerous substance to begin with," Wilson said."

Now if the property owner could identify it as potentially lethal (one would assume it must be labeled then, since I don't believe the property owner is also a part time bio-chem engineer), does this tie in directly with the "mis-labeled" vial of VX. Very curious, nvm the fact that this was washed over and never picked up in the MSM.

I'm still very curious about the pregnant woman. I've read every post in this thread (hours worth of reading even at my fast pace) and have some questions.

What time was she allowed to leave in the overall scheme of things?

Was it before or after the missing VX was found?

Once a base is in lockdown, especially a real one not a drill, what does it take to have someone allowed to leave?

Did anyone actually see the ambulance leave? The helicopter?


Are there any firsthand reports from this woman or her family?

It would also be helpful to know if any members live in the Salt lake area and can corroborate whether or not any local hospitals had any inbound fligts around this time.

I don't think this is just a rabbit hole, folks. It's a friggen warren.

Originally posted by jadedANDcynical
What time was she allowed to leave in the overall scheme of things?

Was it before or after the missing VX was found?

Once a base is in lockdown, especially a real one not a drill, what does it take to have someone allowed to leave?

Did anyone actually see the ambulance leave? The helicopter?


Are there any firsthand reports from this woman or her family?

what time was she allowed to leave?
Do not know, however the first news article I saw
they used past tense. which meant she was already
gone from the site.

Was it before or after the missing VX was found?
The chronological order as I remember.
FIRST: Article bout Dugway was in lockdown. Pregnant woman airlifted.
SECOND: tweet from Ashley stating the missing VX
THIRD: jackwagon showing up at the other place confirming
Ashley's tweet of missing VX.
FOURTH: jackwagon blogging they were on the hunt of several military suspects
who were AWOL.

and after that it got hectic and I can't remember
the order after that. But basically the pregnant woman had
already left by the time the original story broke.

reply to post by JacKatMtn

Jack, what i found odd about that article
was the fact that those 2 individuals who were taken
off the shuttle bus and returned to the main building.
That individual (without saying who he was) said they
questioned him and his buddy about an incident
that happened a month ago.

Now, with all the tests and checks they do
on a daily basis, how could this stuff have been
mislabeled and misplaced for a MONTH ???

You see how the OS does not match up ????

They locked the base down when they found it missing.
But question folks who accessed it a month ago.

jadedANDcynical, UtahRosebud posted this about the "pregnant woman"

Originally posted by UtahRosebud
Ok... I see no one has uncovered anything related to the "pregnant woman" that I referred to when I was typing out what the live news was reporting at the time. So I did some digging and this is the only thing I can find on the internet that actually mentions her.

It's anyones guess if it's true or not... but hey, I found it!

Which eliminates the thinking that I was losing my mind. Which is entirely possible ... however just not related to this. LOL

Pregnant Woman - Link To Article

Last paragraph of the article:

According to a report from the Tooele County Sheriff’s Office, a pregnant woman who began having complications was allowed to leave the post during the lockdown. She was taken by ambulance to a rendezvous point near I-80 and Skull Valley Road at about 10 p.m. to meet a helicopter, which took her to a Salt Lake City-area hospital.

Not exactly the "feel good" piece that the news would normally follow-up with, they haven't done a follow-up to let everyone know how the baby is? Our local stations would be all over a baby story for the nightly news.

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Boondock... I hate to say it but this thread is just being troll'd.. sorry mate
maybee after all the >insert big nasty swear word here< wrack off, we can come back to it.