Dugway Army Base On Lockdown

double post

Originally posted by harryhaller

Originally posted by Advantage

Incredible quality of posters we have here these days.

Yeah i was thinking the same thing you know.

Do you have anything to add OTHER than it's all ok and normal?

Because i don't believe you.

erm, do you think the children of military members or civilian researchers
are living by the sword? just curious how far out you extend the scum reference and death sentence

Originally posted by matrix12
reply to post by fw2011

 

this year so far feels like a movie, so many things are going down to keep track of, ufos, dead animals, volcanoes, quakes, shootings, things are getting to pick up the pace, you can feel it , things are getting worse working up to something bad, anyone else gotten this feeling since the newyear? and i havent seen alot of threads about this crazy weather we are having, snowstorm after snowstorm , five stories of snow has been plowed in ny and thye are running out of places to plow it!! they have declared a state of emergency twice since dec 26th. we are in some interesting days, and we will be witness too astonishing things this year and the following years to come , of this im sure

i live in montreal... new yorkers are pussies, try having an ice storm that lasts 2 weeks+

Wonderful--fabuloso--c'est magnifique!!

Kudos to the OP & everybody who contributed to this thread. With (at last count) only 6 or so mega-corporations owning nearly all of the mainstream media in the world today, folks like you on sites like ATS may well be the real newscast of the future. Think of it- if this incident had been a real disaster, you all might have been saving lives.

A thought did come to me, though- how many of you remember the movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"- the scene where the alien ship is on its way to land at the Devil's Tower in Wyoming, & one of the officials wants the area cleared of human outsiders? He says he wants a fake disaster declared so scary that it would get rid of every human soul. His people create it, & it works- for almost everyone in the area. I don't think anything that dramatic happened in this case, but the "cage" at the beginning of this thread & the UFO Hunters segment got me thinking.....what if?

Heres an interesting bit of info on this VX stuff:

VX, IUPAC name O-ethyl S-[2-(diisopropylamino)ethyl] methylphosphonothioate, is an extremely toxic substance whose only application is in chemical warfare as a nerve agent. As a chemical weapon, it is classified as a weapon of mass destruction by the United Nations in UN Resolution 687. The production and stockpiling of VX was outlawed by the Chemical Weapons Convention of 1993.

So how comes this place has some if it's outlawed?

reply to post by undo


You cannot play with VX and claim any immunity from when it gets used. You know, all this military and civilian activity since apollo all over the place, how well are these people doing their job? Which is primarily to keep "us" safe. Yeah ok, VX nerve gas in a depot round the corner, nice men in white coats are really careful with it?

For crying out loud these are the same people that have lost armed nuclear warheads?! Iran has never lost a nuke? USA has lost several, including those that my country gave up voluntarily. And when something does go wrong the only response is to delete and cover up anything that says anything about it? Oh i'm feeling really safe right now.

More than that, i'm in fact disgusted by the attitudes of some on this site, that the military industrial complex has many and varied chemical and biological weapons all over the place, and that its OK?? Moreover, that "hubby" can go prancing to work everyday, keeping these wheels of death greased, and have no shame? Those same damned chemicals are what over a million Iraqis died for. Don't suggest that the workers in the military industrial complex are "just doing their job" ... it's aiding and abetting crimes against humanity.

*rant over*

I do not believe a quarter teaspoon of VX was missplaced for 10 hour and then found. I believe that a convenient cover story was supplied, albeit inadvertantly by one of the staff.

I still don't understand the thinking that makes "tweets" invalid, yet fox news, a KNOWN propaganda machine valid? All have to be taken at face value, deeper value, and not at all, and both need to be tested for the same values before accepting. Thats what we did, look at ANY evidence, and evaluate according to observed merits. Some were (apparently) correct and others mistaken, but those who came in brandishing preconceived ideas were the true failures of this story.

reply to post by undo


Ok, addendum if i may.

I would not extend that to children, children have no control over the decisions of their parents.

HOWEVER ... those parents themselves bring the "death" onto their offspring, karma is a great big wheel that turns, and you cannot ignore it because you are well paid and can claim scientific objectivity.

Perhaps i am wrong, but we as parents must choose our own lives wisely, and in a manner that will reflect well for our children. We leave them inheritances ... who would want their child to inherit VX nerve gas? Really, who?

Originally posted by zorgon
www.reuters.com...
No worries just a little misplaced nerve gas - rest easy.

Well seems now Reuters has it I guess they must be using ATS as a source

I think they are lying in that article.
They claim it was only 1 ML that was missing.
I have another insider source that claimed 80 ML of VX
was missing. But I can't post link due to T&C.
sorry

this insider claims he has knowledge of a far
bigger conspiracy surrounding this incident.
I don't know how credible he is. But I will say
his story is absolutely fascinating if ya wanna
hear it.

Originally posted by harryhaller
reply to post by undo

 

More than that, i'm in fact disgusted by the attitudes of some on this site, that the military industrial complex has many and varied chemical and biological weapons all over the place, and that its OK?? Moreover, that "hubby" can go prancing to work everyday, keeping these wheels of death greased, and have no shame? Those same damned chemicals are what over a million Iraqis died for.

got to agree with this, murderers and those who call them heroes do not see things in the same way as most civilians

at least mask had the decency to admit his failings (eventually) but the army wife (advantage) spouted so much nonsense it was bordering on the ridiculous

reply to post by boondock-saint


Hmmm....curiosity peaked, I'm always open to alternative theories and such. If you can't post link or anything feel free to u2u me mate, I'd like to check it out, thx!

reply to post by boondock-saint


Let's hear it!
Crap! Sorry for the one liner.....I am curious though to hear the story.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
this insider claims he has knowledge of a far
bigger conspiracy surrounding this incident.
I don't know how credible he is. But I will say
his story is absolutely fascinating if ya wanna
hear it.

i have been following that thread, after the sterling work identifying the tweeter here and on there i am a lot more inclined to believe it now

the only real doubts i have are the similarities to the thread starter and the huge post about jared lee loughner and a comet/green bird, seams like the same guy, anyone remember the thread i mean?

edit - this is the thread i mean www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by DeadpoolPete

the only real doubts i have are the similarities to the thread starter and the huge post about jared lee loughner and a comet/green bird, seams like the same guy, anyone remember the thread i mean?

Oh yeah, I remember that thread...who could forget it? LOL Unfortunately I haven't been keeping up with this one, but I'm going to go back through and read it now. Having trouble keeping up with current events lately.

reply to post by kismetphayze


once boondock posts his take on it hopefully you can find the thread he is talking about, i can always u2u it since we can't link to it

don't wanna jump in with the goods since boondock brought it up

Originally posted by DeadpoolPete
reply to post by kismetphayze

 

once boondock posts his take on it hopefully you can find the thread he is talking about, i can always u2u it since we can't link to it

don't wanna jump in with the goods since boondock brought it up

edit on 28-1-2011 by DeadpoolPete because: (no reason given)

Got it, thanks so much, now to soak my brain in information...ahhh...much better !

I have not been able to read the entire thread on this. I did find this on her alleged youtube page. The comment that was left was from a week ago. What could it mean?

ok this is my vey very condensed version

the OP works at ft.brenning(sp?) and has access to sirpnet and was posting info about the vx gas, i haven't been able to check the times of the post in relation to ashley's tweets to see if he was on the money or just copying

over the next 20 odd pages it looks like this

2 suspects got out with vx gas, and 2 other substances, ill find the names but i know one is old soviet nerve gas

these men belong to a group of home grown terrorists, made up of cops, army etc numbering 150-200 strong

the guy seams legit apart from a few things but am still reading through alot of it

i recommend reading the thread, i'll u2u the link to anyone who wants it because once you read it you can get a better idea if it's rubbish or not

Originally posted by kismetphayze
Let's hear it!
Crap! Sorry for the one liner.....I am curious though to hear the story.

edit on 1/28/2011 by kismetphayze because: (no reason given)

OK, that makes 2 people that want to hear it.
I have been keeping notes and pasting posts
from another internet site which I won't name.
But there appears to be a military senior
intelligence analyst who claims a much bigger
conspiracy is happening than just at Dugway.
Some of you may have already heard it so bear
with me as I try to explain the details of his story.

he claims that the DOD is aware of a plot to steal
chemical weapons from different military facilities
in the US. He cites Dugway UT, Redstone Arsenal,
AL and NWE Earle, NJ. He claims that 7 people have already
been arrested and are in military custody and they are looking
frantically for 2 more US Army soldiers who have gone AWOL.
One soldier is an Army Sgt. and another is an Army Specialist.
These 2 seem to be working together to attain chemical weapons
for a possible terrorists attack within the US. Working in tandom
together is how they bypassed the 2 person contact protocols
within each compound.

That inventory that Dugway was doing was not by accident,
they had found other chemicals missing from other labs
mentioned up to 4 days ago and were in the process
of doing inventory at Dugway when they found the VX missing.
MSM did not cover the lockdowns at Redstone Al and NWE Earle, NJ.
And this would coincide with the post here that Ashley was tweeting
from Alabama instead of Utah. Folks just assumed she was
talking about UT cuz that was the base most knew was on
lockdown. This insider claims the following to be missing
from several weapons labs in the US.

4 cc's of hydrogen cyanide
80ML of VX
56 grams of Alpha-232 Novichok (Russian nerve agent)

The insider says that there seems to be a plot between
several military insiders who plan a possible attack
on the Superbowl. They seem to be part of a faction
who is at odds with the current government authority.
He listed the group to be between 100-200 strong and
includes current military, veterans, police and ex-law
enforcement.

Like I said, his story is unconfirmed and is speculation
right now. But I thought I would share it here so it can be
discussed. Let the flaming begin.

reply to post by boondock-saint


nicely done my good man

now, what do you think about the posters similarities to the JLL thread i mentioned?

Originally posted by DeadpoolPete
nicely done my good man

well I try to keep good notes on subjects
such as this. As details mean a hell of
a lot when piecing together the dots.