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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
While im usually with you Zorgon and Chadwickus I still have to disagree. Maybe im dense?
VenturaUFO | January 25, 2011
Original footage by Yalcin Yalmin Alien analysis by Mario Valdes Presented by Zan Ferris and Dr. Roger Leir Edited by Mike Gleeson Filmed at the Ventura County UFO Festival November 28th, 2010 at the Four Points Sheraton Ventura, California
Still patiently waiting for the whole tape to be released none the less.
Originally posted by AllIsOne
Why are you people ignoring me? The video was shot inside a small space. I posted the evidence two posts ago.
Originally posted by ziggyproductions05
Well as you said, we havent seen all of the footage yet so maybe he was actually there? I personally dont see how Dr. Lier's presence effects the validity of this sighting. This object has been filmed when Dr Lier is there and when he isnt.
Originally posted by hawaii50th
Originally posted by AllIsOne
Why are you people ignoring me? The video was shot inside a small space. I posted the evidence two posts ago.
You've heard of youtube trolls? Need I say more.
Original footage by Yalcin Yalmin Alien analysis by Mario Valdes Presented by Zan Ferris and Dr. Roger Leir Edited by Mike Gleeson Filmed at the Ventura County UFO Festival November 28th, 2010 at the Four Points Sheraton Ventura, California
Aliens and the Scalpel-First and Second Edition, “UFO Crash in Brazil”, “Casebook Alien Implants”, “Chopped Liver” and three other books published outside the United States, including “Implantes Alienegenas” published in Portuguese in Brazil, and “Ovnis and Implants” published in France by Le Mercure Dauphinois.
When spectacular UFO images surfaced earlier this year, they looked amazing, even showing lifeforms inside a metallic flying object. The Turkish nightguard -- Yalcın Yalman -- who filmed the footage during his nightshifts couldn’t be more forthcoming. He delivered the film, his camera and all the date he gathered to the national UFO Space Science Research Project. That organization shocked the media by concluding the footage was undeniable proof of UFO’s during a heavily attended press conference. Renowned scientists and sceptics demanded the original footage for study but came to a startling conclusion! "The objects filmed are not the results of any kind of computer animation." Sirius UFO Space Science Research Centre in Turkey Three of the countries’ leading scientists* were very sceptic and immediately claimed the “proof” was a hoax and possibly computer animated, without even studying the images. (*) Prof. Adnan Öktem from the Istanbul University Department of Astronomy Sciences, Prof. Mehmet Emin Ozel from the University Department of Physics and Prof. Kerem Doksat from the Istanbul University Department of Psychiatry.
On January 17, 2008 the Sirius UFO Space Sciences Research held a press conference at the Dedeman Hotel flocked by the high number of attendees. The incident was announced to the public at this press conference and the aforementioned sightings were part of the news covered in both local and foreign media, TV, and newspapers as well as Internet portals. Following these developments some parties who appeared on various TV shows, starting with Prof. Adnan Öktem from the Istanbul University Department of Astronomy Sciences, Prof. Mehmet Emin Ozel from the18 March University Department of Physics and Prof. Kerem Doksat from the Istanbul University Department of Psychiatry claimed with great prejudice that the footages taken in Kumburgaz were a hoax made up by a mockup or computer animation without having conducted an analysis or any kind of study. Upon these developments the Sirius UFO Space Sciences Center CEO Haktan Akdogan took part in a National TV show and stated live in front of the cameras, that he would give the film to Prof. Adnan Oktem who wanted to have the original film of the sightings in order to have it studied at a Scientific Institution owned by the state that is highly reliable and influential, called “TUBITAK” The Science and Technology Research Board of Turkey. Prof. Oktem stated that he wanted the film to be analyzed at TUBITAK’s National Observatory Center in Antalya this way the truth would be revealed. Afterwards both parties decided to go to TUBITAK’s National Observatory Center in Antalya, accompanied by the host of the aforementioned TV show and the TV cameramen. When they got there, Haktan Akdogan handed over the original film to Prof. Oktem, who submitted the film for analysis to the scientists on duty at TUBITAK. TUBITAK, as a result of the thorough analysis it conducted it prepared an official report that stated: "The objects sighted in the aforementioned footage that have a structure that is made of specific material are definitely not made up by any kind of computer animation nor are they any form of special effects used for simulation in a studio or for a video effect therefore in conclusion it was decided that the sightings were neither a mockup or hoax. " Furthermore in the last part of the report, it was concluded that these objects in the sightings that have physical and material structures do not belong in any category ( such as; planes, helicopters, meteors, Venus, Mars, satellites, fire balls, Chinese lantern… etc.) and but rather fall into the category of UFO’s (Unidentified Flying Objects )...
Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Maybe there is some confusion however that should not hurt the credibility of Lear.
Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Maybe TUBITAK can or give us an explanation? Because they have not released the footage could mean legality's are pending or something else rather then covering up a hoax. I have a hard time believing these institutions are conspiring behind a hoax. They could lose their career. So if someone her speaks turkish contact them please for I am limited to this one language.
Sirius
www.siriusufo.org...
Tubitak
euraxess.tubitak.gov.tr...
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Maybe there is some confusion however that should not hurt the credibility of Lear.
Not LEAR as in John LEAR but Dr Robert LEIR
Gladly give them a chance but the first sighting was 2007, n'est pas? and you say 'these institutions'
Sirius is owned by the promoter so his analysis is biased so of little value
Tubitak merely confirmed the film was not CGI. I don't think anyone questions that it was filmed... only the interpretation of what was filmed.
The image manipulation charges are directed at the 'enhancement' of stills from the video to show aliens
"The objects sighted in the aforementioned footage that have a structure that is made of specific material are definitely not made up by any kind of computer animation nor are they any form of special effects used for simulation in a studio or for a video effect therefore in conclusion it was decided that the sightings were neither a mockup or hoax. " Furthermore in the last part of the report, it was concluded that these objects in the sightings that have physical and material structures do not belong in any category ( such as; planes, helicopters, meteors, Venus, Mars, satellites, fire balls, Chinese lantern… etc.) and but rather fall into the category of UFO’s (Unidentified Flying Objects ).
Originally posted by ziggyproductions05
reply to post by zorgon
Well as you said, we havent seen all of the footage yet so maybe he was actually there? I personally dont see how Dr. Lier's presence effects the validity of this sighting. This object has been filmed when Dr Lier is there and when he isnt.
Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Indeed and Jamie Maussan "if that is how it is spelled" was not there either.
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by hawaii50th
Originally posted by AllIsOne
Why are you people ignoring me? The video was shot inside a small space. I posted the evidence two posts ago.
You've heard of youtube trolls? Need I say more.
AllIsOne is no troll And is correct on the audio as this video was filmed during a watching of the film, not the actual on location
Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
But all too often we have someone start out as honest serious and credible researchers then decide to cash in on hoaxes like Steve Greer and so many others. We keep seeing this happen over and over, people get greedy.
Originally posted by rogertom
The other day, i came across stuff on the web, claiming this was a hoax carried out by one of their t.v crews. The idea was, to see if they could convince folk it was real. And apparently they are laughing up their backs at us. I am looking for the links regarding this, but i have purged my history.
Originally posted by zorgon
So why is ANYONE even saying that he taped this? The video is a taping of them viewing it and discussing it. I challenge Dr Lier to prove he was actually in Turkey when that was filmed in 2009