World business leaders told flying saucers are real & extraterrestrials exist

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posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
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Perhaps phrasing that thought a bit more politely would help people to try and understand your perspective?

I read your second post, which did make sense - but your attitude is extremely poor in the first post. You've effectively walked into a room full of people discussing what could prove to be an incredibly important event and said "Hey - you guys are all stupid, and gullible". How would that go down in real life?


I would say the exact same thing. If people have a problem with it, confront me like men or cowar in your ignorance.

You may think my attitude is poor, but my thoughts are precise, logical, and most of all, assertive. Believing in aliens is the same as believing in God; it's all rhetoric, but at least the "aliens are flying aerial disc" theory can be completely dissolved if people would actually look at the real facts and physical/technological possibilities instead of looking at science fiction as reality.

Aerial discs are most definitely real. They have nothing to do with aliens.




posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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ATS is probably the first forum I can honestly say not Caveat Emptor...but Caveat Vendor..Let the Seller Beware..because we are the targets of these people to spread their gospel and they should be aware we will spare no question to get to the truth, wherever it falls.


I have not found ATS to be a good place to debunk religious (ufo) leaders.



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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I would say the exact same thing. If people have a problem with it, confront me like men or cowar in your ignorance. You may think my attitude is poor, but my thoughts are precise, logical, and most of all, assertive. Believing in aliens is the same as believing in God; it's all rhetoric, but at least the "aliens are flying aerial disc" theory can be completely dissolved if people would actually look at the real facts and physical/technological possibilities instead of looking at science fiction as reality. Aerial discs are most definitely real. They have nothing to do with aliens.


Did you ever consider that UFO/ET is simply GOD playing games with US. That's what is happening.



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by SecondComing
Did you ever consider that UFO/ET is simply GOD playing games with US. That's what is happening.


Have you considered that you might be God playing with yourself?


Originally posted by SecondComing
That's what is happening.


You seem certain. Can you prove this with something other than faith? i.e. theological context, primary or even secondary sources of information.



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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Yeah, well they should look at home some too i think.. I have seen tons of things posted on this forum that gets blind support and takes 5 minutes to look up and find out the "truth" on.. I have seen people stand up for people and things like the Laughner incident or things debunked long ago and fight for them to the end only because they want something to believe in.

Sorry, the big part of this forum a discredit to all the community.
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posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Ive noticed a lot of posts about the quran issue and think ill have my two cents worth,
as the conference is in saudi arabia i think they put any other book they would be in some kind of trouble so to avoid jail or worse they just used this particular version of the good book to relate in general to religion.



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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ok. we agree that flying saucers are real. if they're not piloted by aliens, who is in control of them. i would accept that they are flown by some secret elite shadow government organization, but the fact is they've been reported for thousands of years. they've appeared in vedic text, classical artwork, even the christian bible (ezekiels wheel) they've been painted on cave walls by prehistoric man. so please tell me who is piloting these things. im not arguing; i genuinely want to know. i await your enlightenment with bated breath



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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I haven't kept up with this thread enough,but here's an update...

news.exopoliticsinstitute.org...



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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I had a flying saucer in my backyard. It sure travelled further than the flying dessert bowl. It disintergrated against the neighbours brick wall sending alien debris everywhere.



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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Right on


Well apparently Obummer (according to Chinese media) will be "disclosing" UFO/Aliens/ET's in some sort of venue in the coming weeks/month. Not sure if this has been posted anywhere on the boards yet but here ya go:



NT



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
 


Perhaps phrasing that thought a bit more politely would help people to try and understand your perspective?

I read your second post, which did make sense - but your attitude is extremely poor in the first post. You've effectively walked into a room full of people discussing what could prove to be an incredibly important event and said "Hey - you guys are all stupid, and gullible". How would that go down in real life?


I would say the exact same thing. If people have a problem with it, confront me like men or cowar in your ignorance.

You may think my attitude is poor, but my thoughts are precise, logical, and most of all, assertive. Believing in aliens is the same as believing in God; it's all rhetoric, but at least the "aliens are flying aerial disc" theory can be completely dissolved if people would actually look at the real facts and physical/technological possibilities instead of looking at science fiction as reality.

Aerial discs are most definitely real. They have nothing to do with aliens.


Sorry, It's illogical given the infinitesimal size of the universe to think that believing in aliens is all rhetoric like believing in God. Humans don't know everything and it's silly to think that we are the only thing in the whole universe. Granted, It's another thing to think that UFOs people are seeing are in fact aliens but it's a good guess that some are taking in all the evidence and all the witness acounts.

The theories can't be completely dissolved because what are the "real facts" you speak of? That humans can make flying saucers that make 90 degree turns or hover without sound? Trust me, there are tons of creditable eyewitness accounts to pour through if somebody like yourself ever got past thinking that we are the only thing in the entire universe.



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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There were a few Marian apparitions in 1998 I believe and she said the reason for these apparitions is to strengthen humanity for what is about to come upon man. She had mentioned the Deception in the Bible is when UFO's appear and they will present themselves as visitors from other worlds, when in fact they are the Fallen Angels and allowed to come to earth to deceive man during these End Times. They will set themselves up as Gods. The UFO is the vehicle that transports them from Hell to Earth --from the Spiritual battle to the last Physical battle.

Makes perfect sense since Maitreya calls himself, and others, Ascended Masters. Since Satan is the opposite of Christ, the opposite of an Ascended Master is a Fallen Angel.

Everything is falling perfectly in line!

• Pope Paul VI mentioned in a speech that the smoke of Satan has entered through some fissure in 1972 and is now in the Temple Of God. This is the actual 3rd secret of Fatima! You can see why they didn't want to release that secret.
• Malachi Martin was in the Vatican for many years. In his book, as well as others, the Keys of this Blood, said that Black Magik is practiced in the Vatican and that Satan now dwells there.
• Many Marian apparitions from the late 1970's and 1980's mention that Satan entered Rome in 1972.
• There are wars and rumors of wars.
• UFO sightings are increasing.
• In the late 1990's, the blue dye necessary to make some garments of the 3rd Temple, especially parts of the High Priest garments, was found (God's timetable). They now have ALL garments made, all artifacts constructed exactly as God instructs them to in the Bible. They also have most of the 3rd Temple constructed, but off-site and ready to go when they get the go-ahead.
• We are in a world-wide economy depression.
• Maitreya's Open Mission has now officially begun. The next event for him will be his Day Of Declaration, which is the same thing as the Garabandal Warning (Look it up. The Warning comes from God but Maitreya will take credit for it.). By the way, the Warning MAY be the star Betelguese exploding but not doing harm to earth, thus warning mankind of what is about to come.
• Marian apparitions talking of 2 suns, and now 2 suns may form from Betelguese.
• Earthquakes appear to be intensifying both in strength and in numbers.
• World Business leaders were just informed that ET's exist, and that they're not little green men, but (spiritual) energy & that they better prepare.

This of course is a VERY shortened list, but you get the point. The Fallen Angels are about to appear in their UFO's and deceive mankind.



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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this is not good news my friends, for 'aliens' are actually angels of the utmost EVIL. they will come for your soul and will stop at nothing for it; so you better be a slave to God and His Son and live for an eternity with Him, or else live an eternity without Him. It's your choice; this is a sign that things are getting pretty bad, for as Jesus said, the end of the world will be like the days before the great flood, there will be alien-human hybrids from demons having sex with women, and there will be unrighteousness everywhere in the world... not to mention sorcery and other evil things... so gird your loins!



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by On the Edge
I haven't kept up with this thread enough,but here's an update...

news.exopoliticsinstitute.org...


Thank You!




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posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 10:03 PM
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Flow chart, that is not. A creative drawing, heavily influenced by a particular political & world view? Yes.



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Xinthose
there will be alien-human hybrids from demons having sex with women, and there will be unrighteousness everywhere in the world... not to mention sorcery and other evil things... so gird your loins!


Well... From a literal view, the world is full of peace. More so than ever before. Sure, there are wars going on, and "evil" erupts from otherwise peaceful cities from time to time... But the frequency and the magnitude of the events are absolutely petty in comparison to the ugliness that was our human past. Relatively speaking, we as a people are getting along pretty well with one another.



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 10:53 PM
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So out of the billions of galaxies, and the chance that one single galaxy could hold thousands of planets that support life, it still doesn't exist? Your being logical?

Open your mind and see the true reality. The reality that this very existence is way beyond human comprehension and alot more fascinating than science fiction.

The government is responsible for the crafts yet, even hundreds of years ago before we had the technology we have today, sightings were still reported. Some describe the same things people see today. Hmmm, now that doesn't make sense does it? Why would people hundreds of years ago, if not thousands, report strange lights in the sky when they didn't even have machines that could take to the air?

Well, I guess i'll just have to take your word for it, because you seem to know the real truth. Thanks alot man.



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by riffraff
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
 


ok. we agree that flying saucers are real. if they're not piloted by aliens, who is in control of them. i would accept that they are flown by some secret elite shadow government organization, but the fact is they've been reported for thousands of years. they've appeared in vedic text, classical artwork, even the christian bible (ezekiels wheel) they've been painted on cave walls by prehistoric man. so please tell me who is piloting these things. im not arguing; i genuinely want to know. i await your enlightenment with bated breath


So let me get this straight.

Some old art, which is more symbolic than objective, depicts lights in the sky and thus flying discs have been around forever?

I'm going to say it again on ATS, for a countless time: aerial discs were developed by the Nazis during WWII. Lead engineer was Andreas Epp. The Soviets acquired Epp after WWII and the Soviet produced their own aerial discs (seen doing recon over Washington state in 1947). There is no alien conspiracy here.


Sorry, It's illogical given the infinitesimal size of the universe to think that believing in aliens is all rhetoric like believing in God. Humans don't know everything and it's silly to think that we are the only thing in the whole universe. Granted, It's another thing to think that UFOs people are seeing are in fact aliens but it's a good guess that some are taking in all the evidence and all the witness acounts.

The theories can't be completely dissolved because what are the "real facts" you speak of? That humans can make flying saucers that make 90 degree turns or hover without sound? Trust me, there are tons of creditable eyewitness accounts to pour through if somebody like yourself ever got past thinking that we are the only thing in the entire universe.


Damn straight we can make aerial discs that can hover and move on a dime. All aircraft move, not from engines or wings, but through the air vacuums created in their aerodynamic designs. Aerial discs at the same, creating a vacuum over their entire surface area giving them the ability to move much more aerodynamically than conventional aircraft.

Combine that with electromagnetic engines for lift. If you attach a certain type of copper wire to a power source, it hovers.



See these objects? They are drone craft. The red-hot rings on the bottom are powering their lift.

Again, none of this is secret. It is just fed to the masses as if these must be aliens, when the people using them obviously don't want to masses to realize what they really are. ala, the concept of BLACK OPERATIONS.

EDIT: So people claim that UFOs were around for thousands of years? No crap. You must be pretty naive to believe that our current society were the first to figure out how to fly. Ancient Indians had aircraft, after all (and used them to kill each other off through war).
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posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 11:10 PM
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When did God become "Q"?

Or ...gasp... has God been a "Q" all along?



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

Originally posted by riffraff
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
 


ok. we agree that flying saucers are real. if they're not piloted by aliens, who is in control of them. i would accept that they are flown by some secret elite shadow government organization, but the fact is they've been reported for thousands of years. they've appeared in vedic text, classical artwork, even the christian bible (ezekiels wheel) they've been painted on cave walls by prehistoric man. so please tell me who is piloting these things. im not arguing; i genuinely want to know. i await your enlightenment with bated breath


So let me get this straight.

Some old art, which is more symbolic than objective, depicts lights in the sky and thus flying discs have been around forever?

I'm going to say it again on ATS, for a countless time: aerial discs were developed by the Nazis during WWII. Lead engineer was Andreas Epp. The Soviets acquired Epp after WWII and the Soviet produced their own aerial discs (seen doing recon over Washington state in 1947). There is no alien conspiracy here.


Sorry, It's illogical given the infinitesimal size of the universe to think that believing in aliens is all rhetoric like believing in God. Humans don't know everything and it's silly to think that we are the only thing in the whole universe. Granted, It's another thing to think that UFOs people are seeing are in fact aliens but it's a good guess that some are taking in all the evidence and all the witness acounts.

The theories can't be completely dissolved because what are the "real facts" you speak of? That humans can make flying saucers that make 90 degree turns or hover without sound? Trust me, there are tons of creditable eyewitness accounts to pour through if somebody like yourself ever got past thinking that we are the only thing in the entire universe.


Damn straight we can make aerial discs that can hover and move on a dime. All aircraft move, not from engines or wings, but through the air vacuums created in their aerodynamic designs. Aerial discs at the same, creating a vacuum over their entire surface area giving them the ability to move much more aerodynamically than conventional aircraft.

Combine that with electromagnetic engines for lift. If you attach a certain type of copper wire to a power source, it hovers.



See these objects? They are drone craft. The red-hot rings on the bottom are powering their lift.

Again, none of this is secret. It is just fed to the masses as if these must be aliens, when the people using them obviously don't want to masses to realize what they really are. ala, the concept of BLACK OPERATIONS.

EDIT: So people claim that UFOs were around for thousands of years? No crap. You must be pretty naive to believe that our current society were the first to figure out how to fly. Ancient Indians had aircraft, after all (and used them to kill each other off through war).
edit on 27-1-2011 by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi because: (no reason given)


Im not declaring we were the first ones who discovered how to fly, because I actually do not believe that. I believe that has been a desire since man's existence. Probably not manned craft though. The fact remains, how could crafts reported hundreds of years ago be able to be in one spot, and within a split second, be right in another? How?

I agree with you to a certain extent. Our government may be able to do some of these things now without us knowing, because it is top secret. Yet, back hundreds of years ago this government didn't exist, this type of technology did not exist at all. You just can't explain it, so really it ruins your whole theory. You know this. This isn't some conspiracy that has lasted for over a thousand years, ancient civilizations mastered alot of things we probably wouldn't believe, but I do not believe they ever had the capability to do things today's crafts can without some sort of extraterrestrial help.





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