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Originally posted by infolurker
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
Some people are just sick... even at a young age. Guns aren't needed. See: Robert Thompson and Jon Venables
On Feb. 12, 1993, in Liverpool, England, Robert Thompson and Jon Venables murdered 2 year old James Bulger after kidnapping the toddler from a butcher's shop in a shopping center with his mother, Denise who was momentarily distracted as she conducted business.
Two ten year old boys skipping school took the young child on a 2½ mile walk culminating at the railroad tracks. At a canal, on the way, he sustained head and face injuries from being dropped to the ground.
They were seen by at least 38 people, some noticed head injuries on the little boy. It was reported that he seemed upset and distressed, yet other's reported he was also seen laughing happily.
Once they reached the tracks, blue paint was thrown in James's face, they kicked him, battered him with bricks, stones, and a 22 lb iron bar; shoved batteries in his mouth; and sexually assaulted him before covering his lifeless body with bricks and stones on train tracks. A train severed his body. The boys went home afterwards to watch cartoons.
Several days later, James's mangled body in two pieces was discovered on a rail embankment. At the place his body was found, James was honored with floral tributes, including one from Thompson.
Originally posted by Hazz-14
Obviously theres something going on in this kids head.
I really don't think jail is the answer, I think the right people need to help this kid out.
Originally posted by Casandra
I was going to mention this case too. They were sent to a secure unit for 8 years and then they were released on parole and granted life-long anonymity. There had been a huge campaign to stop it, but it was useless. Then last year, Jon Venables went back to jail for hoarding child pornography. Mrs. Fergus (James Bulger's mother) said that if Venables had been kept locked up until he was 25, like the original sentence required, then none of it would have happened.
I wonder if this 11 year old child is really going to be given a life sentence. The crime was horrible, but he should be getting help, maybe put in a secure unit with psychiatric treatment.
It's really sad to see such a young person committing a horrible crime and even sadder to see that he won't be given the help he needs.
Originally posted by rsronce9
i think 1. why were their guns out where he could reach them and get ahold of them.. and 2. he should be shot bc hes old enough to know what he did was wrong. its no different than if a 25 year old walked in a shot her. i personally dont think age matters on this bc he knew was he was doing
Originally posted by bluemirage5
I've probably read most of the articles on this case and like most others here, sad sad sad.
The boy was 11. probably as close to a father an only child and son could possibly get then to have to share it all with a complete stranger with a family of her own was probably tough enough and not without it's own problems then to find out you will no longer be the light of the father knowing another son is about to come in to the world and rip daddy's attention away from daddy's no:1......you can't help not know how this kid must have felt and his father thought "she'll be right mate" attitude. The picture must had been on the wall. You can't ignore these feelings in a child whether he spoke of them or not.
An 11 year old in a grown man's jail; that won't happen until he's legal age. He probably will go to a psychiatrict institution until he's old enough to meet the criteria of a man's prison or put in solitary confinement until he's 18.
As for the father and the family of the victim, they each have websites that I jumped on to to find out more about this story. The father was told time and time again to take off photos of his son playing with the woman and her 2 daughters. He removed a photo as requested but only replaced it by another photo of woman and the 3 kids. The father appears to be in denial of his son's crime and he's not helping himself or his son by throwing more oil on the fire towards his dead wife's family. I can understand the father wants to help his only child but he's not going the right way about it.
By the son showing no remorse tells me either he's innocent or really hated his step parent and sisters. Evidence seems to point to this child.
As for the father...he should be charged with manslaughter by allowing his son to have 5 guns (not 1) in his bedroom including ammunition and because it was used in a criminal case of murder. No 11 year old can be responsible to have within reach such lethal toys in the first place and the guns should had been locked up in the first place. The father was irresponsible and should be held accountable as his son. It's obvious this kid needs help and I hope the appropriate help is given to this kid while he's in jail or he will no doubt and it's more likely he'll reoffend again once he's out.
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by HoldTheBeans
It drives me mad.
There shouldn't even be a saying "tried as an adult" if you are a kid, why should you be tried as an adult YOU AREN'T AN ADULT!
violate international law
I guess they consider the crime he did an "adult" crime. After all its not like he stole a candy bar.