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...shot and killed his father's pregnant fiancee...
Pennsylvania has two death sentences. The obvious one torments the prisoner on death row for ten years and then kills him. The second death sentence is called life in prison. The prisoner dies from old age and despair. There's no parole, no clemency, no rehabilitation.
Pennsylvania doesn't like its citizens. It doesn't believe in their rehabilitation. Most life sentences are for convictions of murder which is certainly a heinous crime. In Pennsylvania many persons get sentences equivalent to life, but "in numbers," as they say. Sentences of 60, 80 even 120 years are not uncommon. Those are death sentences. Pennsylvania is that kind of a place.
At present there are over 4200 persons serving life sentences in Pennsylvania. Most are Afro-Americans. Over 6800 others are serving excessively long sentences (mostly blacks convicted of robbery or drug offenses). Each one of these prisoners cost the taxpayers in excess of $38,000 per year. They are without hope or prospects. Pennsylvania isn't interested in rehabilitation or helping people.
Doing good is not in the state's political thinking. Persons serving life sentences have special problems, but they also give the prison system its stability. Generally, lifers are the "best" and most "normal" prisoners; trying to survive in the most hostile of environments.
Hello, my name is Danny. I'm also a Pennsylvania Lifer. I've been in prison for 35 years. I made a mistake when I was a kid, 17 years old. I must pay for that mistake for the rest of my life. There is no second chance. There is no forgiveness. There is no hope for freedom.
I'm not the same person that made the mistake 35 years ago. I've grown older. I've learned from my mistakes. All people make mistakes as teenagers or young adults. People grow, learn and change as they get older. By nature alone, nobody is the same at 50 years old as they were at 17 years old.
No matter how much I've changed, no matter how sorry I am for my mistake, no matter how much time I serve in prison, Pennsylvania law says there is no forgiveness. I'm so grateful the good man above doesn't believe that way. He has forgiven me for my mistake....
I think what you meant to say is "Then all of a sudden after they murder somebody, they should be treated like full grown adults."
Originally posted by TKDRL
Then all of a sudden they should be treated like full grown adults.
I find it pretty sad that kids are treated like incompetant retards, unless they do something wrong. Then all of a sudden they should be treated like full grown adults. Just shows you how out of control our for profit "justice" system has gotten I guess.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Reading alot of how a 11 year old can be responsible like an adult
Here is a mental exercise...if a 11 year old should face adult consequences, should they also be able to have the benefits of adults?
Should the age of sexual consent be lowered to 11?
Should a 11 year old be able to drive? to operate heavy machinery? to drink at bars?
Explain why you can punish a 11 year old like an adult because they know what they are doing, yet they cant go off and have a 45 year old boy/girlfriend if they want, or get liquored up.
Ya, thought so...nothing like hypocracy to get things back into perspective.
The kid needs therapy..the crime is horrible...there is some flawed parenting going on here, and it needs to be sorted.
Vengence imprisonment of a child is not doing our justice system or our country as a whole any good.