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Prophecy Fulfilled - Revelations 17, Socialism vs Capitalism?

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posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 06:42 PM
I found this extremely intriguing and thought it worth posting. This seems to be happening before our very eyes. Yet it may not be how you think. He looks at it from an esoteric and exoteric stand point, from an the individual on the inside, and the whole on humanity on the outside. Take a look and see what you think...

This correlates well with those conspiracy theorists who believe that some are seeking to establish a "new world order" under something like the United Nations that will take away their freedoms. It would appear that their fears are in fact well founded.

There is definitely a conspiracy on the inner planes and we are cooperating by devolving on this plane. I think you'll find these additional insights interesting.

And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. Revelation 17:12

Inwardly the ten horns represent the ten petals of the solar plexus. This center is the seat of desire and represents the fiery red passion to aspire and succeed in the eyes of the world. Outwardly they represent the ten political divisions of the earth. The link between the two is the emotional nature. The solar plexus governs the emotions, and the governments of the earth are ruled by emotional desire energy rather than mind and reason.

These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. Revelation 17:13

The beast in my mind is unjust authority so this make perfect sense to me. From what I know of this author that would be his simple definition of the beast also and he has written extensively on it which you can find here starting at about #32:

one mind of the emotional nature is short-range emotional desire. They want what they want in the immediate future and do not use the mind to calculate what is good in the long run. The authority of the Beast promises immediate benefits so the emotional nature yields and gives its power and strength to false promises.

These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. Revelation 17:14

Whatever comes forth from the Christ consciousness of the true servants is seen as a threat to short term satisfaction so the emotional nature of the individual, the authorities and nations make war against common sense and reason. But in the end the pure reason and love of the Christ consciousness will prevail.

This certainly make sense, how often do we point out here on ATS how common sense and reason have fled from those in power? Like the most recent one of the guy in Canada who was arrested for firing some warning shots at guys fire bombing his house... The news of full of the idiocy of those in positions of authority doing all sorts of bone head things from the local to national and world.

And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. Revelation 17:15

This is a key verse to aid in understanding the symbology of the whole and because of its importance we have already quoted it. The waters are indeed symbolic of the peoples of the earth, especially those who with blind emotion follow unproven authority.

And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. Revelation 17:16

This is a perplexing verse and I do not think any commentator has explained it even to his own satisfaction.

It seems odd that the horns of the Beast would hate the whore when the picture is created that they are working together as a unit. Remember the image is given that the woman rests upon the Beast and both persecute the saints as if they are a team. Why would the horns hate the whore when they seem to share the same goal?

This is a great mystery - that is not so mysterious when unfolded.

First let us look at the inner explanation as to why the conflict exists within the aspiring individual.

The ten horns represent the emotional nature, which is very idealistic and/or religious.

The woman represents the magnetic pull we have toward money and material goods and services.

The idealistic side of ourselves sees money and materialism as evil even though it lets the woman ride upon it and direct the course of our lives and careers.

The emotional idealist self hates the fact that he has to labor in types of work he may not even like for money. He dreams of how nice it would be if money were no longer needed.

This hits home, we often hear people argue for a society without money. When it is not money that is the problem (we don't have any). It is allowing banksters a monopoly with currency to perpetrate a fraudulent monetary system on us that only serves them and steals our labor and wealth. And we see it crumbling now.

Outwardly the woman represents a corrupted capitalism that is controlled and manipulated by the Beast or unjust authority.

The ten horns represent the nations of the world who are gravitating toward corrupt socialism, which is enforced by the Beast of unproven authority.

Even though both capitalism and socialism, in the world today, is controlled by the Beast we find the scripture is right on the mark that the ten horns of socialism hate the whore, or prostituted capitalism. Even though both further the cause of the Beast and capitalism finances socialism, the socialists hate capitalism and seek to destroy it. We've seen this happen before on a smaller scale in Russia and Cuba in particular.

The ten horns of socialism shall make prostituted capitalism "desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire."

When socialism dominates and destroys the capitalistic infrastructure a collapse ensues followed by poverty (desolate and naked). The flesh of the woman shall be eaten - in other words, the assets shall be seized.

Whoa! This is happening right now before our very eyes. The collapse is in progress as we speak. There you are folks one prophecy fulfilled out of all the non fulfilled ones LOL!

So what does it mean that she shall be burned with fire?

The burning is the powerful stirring of emotional nature of the socialists who mindlessly march in the streets demanding the dismantling of capitalism.

For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. Revelation 17:17

This is a fairly terrifying scripture, but it is comforting to know that it is part of God's will. If it literally comes to pass it will mean that the trend toward socialism will continue until dominance becomes complete and the capitalistic system, as we know it, will be destroyed.

But this forced system will only last for "one hour." Some could almost ague that this situation already exists, as the nations of the earth as a whole, have become very socialistic over the past 50 years.

Whatever the case, after this hour passes a new more cooperative system will develop that does not infringe upon free will but pulls from the best of both systems.

And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. Revelation 17:18

Money, capital, interest groups have tremendous influence and rule even over the kings, presidents and prime ministers of the earth.

Now we arrive at these verses to consider:

1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3or all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Revelation 18:1-4

I think he makes an important point that Socialism and Captialism are both corrupted and controlled by unjust authorities (the beast). And that force is what the main factor in corrupting them.

The fall has commenced the hour is almost up. I'd say this is about the best insight I have ever read on Revelations. Right on the mark of you ask me. The correspondences are striking to what we see happening now. Of course there can be other levels of meaning and he touched on those in the beginning such as it corresponding to the inner man etc. however we see the march toward socialism and hatred of capitalism and we see the police state rearing it's ugly head (the beast) and the monetary system collapsing etc. pretty clear I would say. Thoughts?

posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 11:40 PM
Wow no comments? Come on folks I know your itching to tear this one a apart? Folks complain how all the prophecies always fail and finally we get one that is fulfilled and no one makes a comment... That just figures LOL


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