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GOP pushing for ISPs to record user data

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posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 04:41 PM
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This is garbage, and it's makes me real mad.

The thing is, is this guy was just voted back in, and since this is the beginning of his new term, he feels he can pull this garbage now, and when re-election time draws near, he will lay low, and hope everyone forgets.

For the record, let's not pretend that the Repubs are the only ones who pull this,

THEY'RE ALL CRIMINALS!

edit on 25-1-2011 by Oaktree because: spel chek is mi friend




posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red
Sir, I am suggesting that communist liberals are destroying America with their love for big business and the State.

If the government would just stay the FRELL out of their business there would be no reason for the companies to do this.

This is what regulationaries do, they push controls and force private business's to create corrupt profit schemes.

No government no ISP control because the companies would be free to make no ISP control!Once the GOP takes the Senate and the presidency things like this will stop because their will be freedom.

If you love freedom, there is such a thing as freedom and people who do not love freedom don't love freedom.

Once the liberals are gone freedom to not monitor ISP for profit will be gone and then the Maoists will be defeated!!!


edit on 25-1-2011 by Janky Red because: (no reason given)


I have to ask...are you OK?

This is the most crazy thing I have ever seen you post...and that is saying something.

Communist liberals love big business?

If you love freedom...freedom exists and if you dont love freedom...you dont love freedom?

Regulations are the reasons corporations create corrupt profit schemes??? Uhh...what?

Once the GOP take total control things will be OK? You do know it is the GOP that is doing this right?

Seriously...are you ok?



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by Ellen15
I dont get it...

Wasnt it the Republicans who were crying about liberties being taken away?
Didnt the Democrats also push for freedoms and liberties?

Is this not stripping liberties away what they want to do now?


They don't give a crap about liberties!!

Who introduced the patriot act? REPUBLICANS!!
Who killed net neutrality? REPUBLICANS!!!
Who wants to play big brother like in Orwell's 1984? REPUBLICANS!!

Yet people still believe they're for smaller government. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 05:30 PM
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Here is a list of Sensenbrenner's contributors for 2010.
Note that $80,000 comes from Media outlets.

That leads me to believe that this has nothing to do with this:



facilitate law enforcement investigations of Internet child pornography and other Internet crimes," but declined to elaborate.


and everything to do with protecting the recording industry.

1 American Bankers Assn $10,000
1 Honeywell International $10,000
1 National Beer Wholesalers Assn $10,000
4 Recording Industry Assn of America $15000
5 Liberty Media $14000
6 Lockheed Martin $12000
6 National Assn of Realtors $12000
8 Liberty Mutual Insurance $10000
9 Bose Corp $8000
9 Comcast Corp $8000
9 Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu $8000
9 General Electric $8000
9 Microsoft Corp $8000
9 Miller Thomson Llp $8000
9 National Cable & Telecommunications Assn $8000
9 Vivendi $8000
17 News Corp $7000
18 Foley & Lardner $6920
19 AT&T Inc $6000
19 Credit Union National Assn $6000
19 Google Inc $6000
19 National Rifle Assn $6000
19 Northwestern Mutual $6000
19 SRA International $6000

Contributions to Sensenbrenner



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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If true, it is time to add them to get rid of list.

NOW.

Sorry, what I do on the internet has NOTHING to do with anything.

NO EXCUSES ALLOWED.

Sorry, enough of the Big Brother crap. By the way, I enjoy using proxies, maybe everyone should.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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If true, it is time to add them to get rid of list.


I'll be sending an e-mail and making a call tomorrow, asking if he thinks his support of this will win him any more support the Feingold's support of Obamacare.

He must think that this disapproval only runs one way.

Oh, and that little debt clock on his website just about made me vomit.
Vomit inducing debt clock link.
How much will this endeavor cost us?

Effin' pigs.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 07:05 PM
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I don't see this as a GOP issue. Look at who is doing the testifying: The Justice Department, controlled by democrats, is pushing for this legislation.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 07:05 PM
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OH CRAP, he is one of those social conservatives. Just went through his site.

Why is it, those that rail against the cap and tax thingy, do not actually apply what it is all about.

PLUS, this POS is from my state.

Okay folks, the SF is on the ball. Going to bombard him with some stuff. He is not my district, but I am a member of several groups. Time for him to understand PRIVACY is our RIGHT!



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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Alright, just sent off an email, will post a response if I get one. My email-

Dear Jim Sensenbrenner,
I am writing in regards to the recent report where you believe that people's rights of privacy are to be thrown upon the pyre of security that others have warned us about.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Please remember that to give one's liberty for the pursuit of security is a fools errand.
We have to remember that MILLIONS gave their lives for our freedom, are we to give it up for such for such a fool's promise of security?
I am not one of your constituents, but being a fellow Wisconsinite and a Constitutional Libertarian, I must implore you to see reason. No amount of dereliction of our freedoms will protect us, only submit us to the very tyranny that pervades the world. Remember, we are supposed to be the beacon of freedom, shall we give that up for just a semblance of security?

Yours Truly ********************



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ

They don't give a crap about liberties!!

Who introduced the patriot act? REPUBLICANS!!
Who killed net neutrality? REPUBLICANS!!!
Who wants to play big brother like in Orwell's 1984? REPUBLICANS!!

Yet people still believe they're for smaller government. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad


It was interesting to notice the reaction with the Net Neutrality Bill... many felt it was okay as it didnt affect them, ofcourse it didnt they were on broadband lolol

Wireless is the new technology of communication being pushed, especially new generations
Wireless is totally controlled and decided and the user doesnt get to decide - hense the Net Neutrality Bill totally crashed

The way things stand lately.... liberties for some - not for all
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posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
If true, it is time to add them to get rid of list.

NOW.

Sorry, what I do on the internet has NOTHING to do with anything.

NO EXCUSES ALLOWED.

Sorry, enough of the Big Brother crap. By the way, I enjoy using proxies, maybe everyone should.



No Political Party or Politican works for the best interest of the average mere mortal tax paying citizen

Not the Republicans, Not the Democrats, Not even any of the Tea Party Represenatatives



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
Alright, just sent off an email, will post a response if I get one. My email-

Dear Jim Sensenbrenner,
I am writing in regards to the recent report where you believe that people's rights of privacy are to be thrown upon the pyre of security that others have warned us about.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Please remember that to give one's liberty for the pursuit of security is a fools errand.
We have to remember that MILLIONS gave their lives for our freedom, are we to give it up for such for such a fool's promise of security?
I am not one of your constituents, but being a fellow Wisconsinite and a Constitutional Libertarian, I must implore you to see reason. No amount of dereliction of our freedoms will protect us, only submit us to the very tyranny that pervades the world. Remember, we are supposed to be the beacon of freedom, shall we give that up for just a semblance of security?

Yours Truly ********************


What a vague off the cuff email, doesnt really say anything, doesnt really address this particular issue, just a rant



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 12:55 AM
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Wasnt it the Republicans who claimed the Net Neutrality would mean a government takeover of the internet?

The Republicans shouted this to any on who would listen to them with the media parroting the Republicans position

Now they, the Republicans are working on extending SPYING/RECORDING/COLLECTING YOUR information, everything you do online by forcing ISP to record ALL users for them

In many ways...

This is a MASSIVE NATIONAL DATABASE!



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 01:04 AM
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Interesting....

Representative James Sensenbrenner (R) of Wisconsin, the author of the original Real ID Act

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REAL ID Act

The Real ID Act started off as H.R. 418, which passed the House[4] and went stagnant.

Representative James Sensenbrenner (R) of Wisconsin, the author of the original Real ID Act, then attached it as a rider on a military spending bill, H.R. 1268, the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005.

The House of Representatives passed that spending bill with the Real ID rider 368-58,[5] and the Senate passed the joint House-Senate conference report on that bill 100-0.[6] President Bush signed it into law on May 11, 2005.[7]

On March 2, 2007, it was announced that enforcement of the Act would be postponed for two years.[8]

The provisions of the bill will be delayed from going into effect until December 2009.

On January 11, 2008, it was announced that the deadline has been extended again, until 2011, in hopes of gaining more support from states.[9]

On the same date the Department of Homeland Security released the final rule[10] regarding the implementation of the driver's licenses provisions of the Real ID Act.[11]


Source: en.wikipedia.org...




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