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Originally posted by Gradius Maximus
To refute the possibility of alien existence in this infinite universe is foolish.
To assume that we are the best there is - would also be foolish.
To assume that there are no intelligent species observing us in same way, as we begin our strong armed travel into space - Is just ludicrous.
Originally posted by Gradius Maximus
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by Superjamez
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
One question I have is: where is the tangible proof and evidence of these aliens?
It's a cover-up, so I suppose the proof and evidence is covered up
That's a bit of a circular argument. But let's move on.
How are these aliens able to interact only with governments?
How has the government managed to successfully keep such a thing a secret?
What reason would there be to disclose such a secret?
Why would you suddenly believe a government you thought was being deceptive with you for years?
You've done nothing but ask questions - Make your statement and let it rest.
You probably dont believe in aliens, we get it. In fact, you dont seem to believe in anything from what I've read unless its published in a scientific paper. I wonder, what would you have believed in the 1300's?
To refute the possibility of alien existence in this infinite universe is foolish.
To assume that we are the best there is - would also be foolish.
To assume that there are no intelligent species observing us in same way, as we begin our strong armed travel into space - Is just ludicrous.
We are at a threshold - We knocked first - they answered.
Say hello.
Originally posted by Gradius Maximus
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
My justification for anything is when we cannot prove it wrong. I see hubble taking pictures of neighboring galaxies and as I look out into the vastness of space, how can I deny the possibility that there are not other groups, looking directly at us to ensure that we will not bring them harm.
Originally posted by jacksterson
How are these aliens able to interact only with governments?
How is not the right thing to ask, why is probably what you should go for. If they could make it all the way here, from obviously far far away, they can communicate selectively and we would be none the wiser, don't you think? Especially if they contacted the governments first.
How has the government managed to successfully keep such a thing a secret?
They haven't, obviously. Thats why there are so many 'conspiracy' theories out there.
What reason would there be to disclose such a secret?
Every time I say to my family that things are becoming extremely dangerous and the world is chaotic, they always tell me "Oh its happened before, none of this is new, we'll get over it, we always do" Here's an eye opener for you, these things that are happening are happening right now, and yes, they are new and dangerous, and just because we've gone through things before doesn't mean this is not serious. We need help, and I'm willing to bet that any species that has the technology to travel the stars and have been in talks with the governments of the world are probably trying to help us out. Obviously they don't want to enslave us, attack us, steal our planet, or establish trade routes or anything of that nature, but maybe they need the public to know the truth now. Maybe they gave up on the governments and want the public to be aware of whats really going on?
Why would you suddenly believe a government you thought was being deceptive with you for years?
Thats like finding out your mom lied to you when she said that your dog went on 'vacation'. But instead of believing her, she tells you another lie and you accept that lie more because you don't want to face the truth. People, in general, do not want conflict in their lives. Thats why so many people are willing to just sit around and watch tv all day instead of cleaning and helping out neighbors. Now, as for why we're like that, thats a whole nother ballpark.
even though there's no evidence indicating any such thing?
Originally posted by Gradius Maximus
Well...Thats your opinion. - Same old story I suppose, who do you trust?
I've seen trans-dimensional beings and witnessed their intelligent behavior. So they are real to me beyond any doubt. Unfortunately they forgot to leave behind a sample of their ethereal DNA for you to test.
I guess you'll just have to take my word for it.
The burden of proof is yours to collect
Originally posted by jacksterson
Then what is to be expected from disclosure?
That the people rise up and start making changes where it matters most. If we're to keep the family alive and maintain our ways of life, we need to stop thinking globally and more locally. We need to stop focusing on what he said she said and start thinking more and learning more withOUT any other incentive other than personal growth. We care too much about what people think of us than what we think of ourselves.
If that's what these aliens wanted, why would they need the government to handle the task?
If you came to aid a village and you observed that their people are too caught up in their own lives and customs to even acknowledge that there are even white people in the world, don't you think it would shock them to see you? Also, you can't just go around handing them new technologies or introducing new customs. You have to get to them through their village chiefs, who are the ones who need to lay down the ground rules. Its much the same way in this case.
If that's the case, if we couldn't handle the news in the past why are we suddenly able to handle it now? If the government had such a secret, how would it benefit them to disclose such information? And, why should we trust that they're being truthful about it?
We are more able to because we've been buffering and preparing for the news. All these movies, books, and tv shows about aliens, and now whole websites devoted to the possibility and discussion about aliens, when in the past, if we saw something that was different than us, we would more than likely shoot it down. At the state that the world is in right now, if peaceful aliens disclosed their existance to the public and started cleaning up our atmosphere (which according to Billy Meier is one of the things they need our permission for) I think the whole world would be welcoming of them. Especially if they came bearing the EXTREMELY relieving news that there are PEACEFUL aliens out there and that we dont' have to worry, we have friends in them.
Originally posted by Gradius Maximus
Well, theres more and more testimony by the day, its not just mine. Something weird is going on out there.
Any Chance for Disclosure at Tonight's State of the Union????
Originally posted by nathanscottecho
Doesn't anyone find it strange that the topic has shifted so much??
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by Gradius Maximus
Well, theres more and more testimony by the day, its not just mine. Something weird is going on out there.
But testimony alone doesn't establish truth. Hundreds of people will testify that they've seen bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster.
But let's take your claim at face value. If you've witnessed these aliens that are allegedly only dealing with governments, then they're obviously not dealing with just governments. Unless you're employed by government. Are you?
Originally posted by cluckerspud
So do you know what disclosure means now?
If so perhaps you can answer the question of the OP.