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Friend says Abercrombie told him, ‘There is no birth certificate!’

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posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 02:23 AM
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Friend says Abercrombie told him, ‘There is no birth certificate!’






During an interview on the KQRS morning radio show on January 20, Mike Evans, a long-time friend of Hawaii governor Neil Abercrombie, shared a conversation he had with the governor the day prior. The reader is advised to judge for himself the credibility of Evans’ account, but he sounds convincing.

Evans, Honolulu born and now a Hollywood-based celebrity journalist, claimed that Abercrombie had promised him that he when he became governor, he planned to find absolute proof that Obama was born in Hawaii.

When Evans spoke to Abercrombie on January 19, Abercrombie reportedly told him that he searched the relevant Hawaii hospitals using his powers as governor, and concluded, according to Evans, “There is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii, absolutely no proof at all that Obama was born in Hawaii.” After Abercrombie made such a fuss about finding the birth certificate, Evans concluded of his friend that he has “got some egg in the face.”

Curiously too, when Evans asked Abercrombie when he first encountered the young Barack Obama, Abercrombie reportedly said, “I remember him playing in a T-Ball league,” when he was roughly five or six years old...


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Well there you have it...

According to the Governor of Hawaii a birth certificate for Barack Obama does not exist in Hawaii.




posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by EssenSieMich

The reader is advised to judge for himself the credibility of Evans’ account, but he sounds convincing.



Dangit! If only Obama had sounded convincing! Why didnt anyone thing of getting that level of proof before?



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 02:29 AM
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I knew Hawaii was small, but I didn't realise it was so small that everybody knew everybody else from the moment of birth until the day of death.

"...playing T-ball..."

That was a joke, right?
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posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 02:51 AM
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Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
I knew Hawaii was small, but I didn't realise it was so small that everybody knew everybody else from the moment of birth until the day of death.

"...playing T-ball..."

That was a joke, right?
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No it wasn't a joke, Evans was pointing out the discrepancy in what Gov. Abercrombie had said. When speaking to the L.A. Times Gov. Abercrombie had said that he knew Obama since the day he was born. But he later told Evans that he actually only first met Obama when he was 5 or 6 years old playing T-Ball.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 03:10 AM
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Then that possibly makes the Governor a poor eyewitness, to be sure, but has no bearing on the President's location at birth.

Now I guess you just have to wait for the governor to deny he said what Evans has said he said.

Naturally one side of this "issue" will say the Gov lied and therefore the President should not be allowed to hold office while the other side will say Evans lied.

To those who think they somehow have a hope of getting some kind of legal action up and running against the Pres, I'd actually like to see the process, if only out of fascination, for the others who think they'll be able to martial a plurality of those who voted for Obama last time to rally to the GOP candidate next year because they will have "proved" Obama is a foreigner and therefore not legally permitted to the big seat in the oval office, I say, it's good to have a hobby.

What, exactly, are you planning to obsess over after Nov 2012?



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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Dangit! If only Obama had sounded convincing! Why didnt anyone thing of getting that level of proof before?


But Obama was convincing..
He promised a transparent Government and "Change you can believe in"

He was convincing enough to get elected by people thinking he was honest...
Shame about that..He lied..



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 03:21 AM
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Golly gee, didn't see this one coming



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 04:38 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
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Dangit! If only Obama had sounded convincing! Why didnt anyone thing of getting that level of proof before?


But Obama was convincing..
He promised a transparent Government and "Change you can believe in"

Yep, as they say where I live: nobody was harmed by promising; it's a saying coined for politicians and their behavior before and after elections.

Originally posted by backinblack
He was convincing enough to get elected by people thinking he was honest...
Shame about that..He lied..

Yep, like every other politician I know; like, our prime minister who before last elections said "There is money" ... to fund the campaign promises and then after the elections discovered that the state coffers were empty after all and by now we are under EU and IMF control and expense cutting is what the doctors ordered.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 04:45 AM
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Yep, like every other politician I know; like, our prime minister who before last elections said "There is money" ... to fund the campaign promises and then after the elections discovered that the state coffers were empty after all and by now we are under EU and IMF control and expense cutting is what the doctors ordered.


Isn't it odd that only politicians can get away with this lying crap??
But it's also only them that can alter the rules to stop it..
Like bring in perfomance based salaries or passing a law that all campaign promises must be met..

Do you think our loyal pollies would pass such reasonable laws?



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 04:57 AM
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Well I guess when the premise in the OP is faulty and the entire topic is based on some random claim, you just bash Obama any way you can and it gets you stars? So now birthers are not only not birthers, they also do not even want to actually talk about the subject in birther threads they still take the time to write posts in?



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia
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Well I guess when the premise in the OP is faulty and the entire topic is based on some random claim, you just bash Obama any way you can and it gets you stars? So now birthers are not only not birthers, they also do not even want to actually talk about the subject in birther threads they still take the time to write posts in?


But my post was talking about ALL politicians and I believe I had a point..

Did you???



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 05:20 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
But my post was talking about ALL politicians


No it wasn't.

Originally posted by backinblack
But Obama was convincing..
He promised a transparent Government and "Change you can believe in"

He was convincing enough to get elected by people thinking he was honest...
Shame about that..He lied..

Unless all politicians are now called Obamas?

and I believe I had a point..

I am sure you did but it had what do to with this thread?


Did you???


Yes, that the same people that claim to be about the "truth" will latch onto any rumor, clerk sworn second hand gossip, radio show, etc that fits their narrative but refuse to educated themselves on and acknowledge verifiable facts. More to the point, you are all getting so caught up in how bad your entire birther fantasy really is that you not only refuse to be called birthers, you now all cannot even discuss the topic at hand. Your general bashing of Obama got more stars then the OP of this thread. Why? Because the birther argument is a lost cause but just bashing Obama is alive and well, no matter how much of a diversion it is.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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I bet if I were POTUS....

I could show you my birth certificate.

Damn powerful position.

One would think that he could do it.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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From linked article in OP:


Evans, Honolulu born and now a Hollywood-based celebrity journalist....


Consider the source anybody? According to the Right wingers it was my understanding we were supposed to diss anyone in "Hollywood" due to their Extreme left bent. I suppose exceptions are made if it furthers a nice little unfounded smear campaign.


I suspect it was a slow celebrity news gossip day and the shock jock waas just trying to get some action. FAIL

AND NOW LIVE FROM THE RED CARPET: Who are you wearing?

Hearsay masquerading as conjecture dressed in falsehood.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy
I bet if I were POTUS....

So close too, huh?


I could show you my birth certificate.

Like Obama did? You can do it now. You do not have to be president to post a picture of your currently held Hawaiin birth certificate too you know? Just show it.


Damn powerful position.

Hmmm...jealous?


One would think that he could do it.

One would think birthers would do the minimum of research about birth certificates and stop repeating lies they heard on an AM radio morining show.

One would think. When it comes to the birther argument, there seems to be little thinking going on.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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Nice find!

The birthers have resorted to getting their "facts" from the liberal moonbat socialist media elite now.
That is just too perfect. Funny because I thought all colleges were also liberal, communist factories but over in this thread post by FlyersFan they are using something some college teacher said to his student to cling to. The birthers must be turning into liberals.
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posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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I have always thought this is why the witness, his grandmother, conveniently passed away mere days before he was elected.

articles.cnn.com... /politics/obama.grandma_1_madelyn-dunham-jen-psaki-soetoro-ng?_s=PM
OLITICS



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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Of course they let her have the entire campaign to blow his cover but just before the election gave her a long history of cancer and made her 86. That plan is just so perfect it has to be real.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law
Obama will have to produce birth certificate to run again

Read more: Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law www.wnd.com...


The critical phrases are "natural born citizen" and the requirements of "article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States," which imposes on the president a requirement not demanded of other state and federal officeholders.

At the time the Constitution was written, many analysts agree, a "natural born citizen" was considered to be a citizen born of two citizen parents. If that indeed is correct, Obama never would have been qualified to be president, as he himself has confirmed his father was a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom, making Obama a dual citizen with Kenyan and American parentage at his birth.

Other definitions have called for a "natural born citizen" to be born of citizen parents inside the nation.

There have been dozens of lawsuits and challenges over the fact that Obama's "natural born citizen" status never has been documented. The "Certification of Live Birth" his campaign posted online is a document that Hawaii has made available to those not born in the state.

The controversy stems from the Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

The challenges to Obama's eligibility allege he does not qualify because he was not born in Hawaii in 1961 as he claims, or that he fails to qualify because he was a dual citizen, through his father, of the U.S. and the United Kingdom's Kenyan terroritory when he was born and the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens from eligibility.

There are several cases still pending before the courts over Obama's eligibility. Those cases, however, almost all have been facing hurdles created by the courts' interpretation of "standing," meaning someone who is being or could be harmed by the situation. The courts have decided almost unanimously that an individual taxpayer faces no damages different from other taxpayers, therefore doesn't have standing. Judges even have ruled that other presidential candidates are in that position.

The result is that none of the court cases to date has reached the level of discovery, through which Obama's birth documentation could be brought into court.

Obama even continued to withhold the information during a court-martial of a military officer, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who challenged his deployment orders on the grounds Obama may not be a legitimate president. Lakin was convicted and sent to prison.

Burges told WND she's asked the proposal to be assigned to the Government Committee.

"I think every American should consider it of prime importance to ensure that all candidates for the highest elected position in our nation meet all constitutional requirements," she told WND. "We do not accept the federal government's unconstitutional treatment of states as one of their extended branches."

The Arizona bill also requires attachments, "which shall be sworn to under penalty of perjury," including "an original long form birth certificate that includes the date and place of birth, the names of the hospital and the attending physician and signatures of the witnesses in attendance."

It also requires testimony that the candidate "has not held dual or multiple citizenship and that the candidate's allegiance is solely to the United States of America."

Read more: Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law www.wnd.com...


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posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law
Obama will have to produce birth certificate to run again

Read more: Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law www.wnd.com...


Oh that will happen for sure. Why let a few measly weasel words get in the way of a good headline?

A plan......

The proposal.......


Game changer? Yeah like knocking over the scrabble board before you are about to lose.

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