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Originally posted by Masterjaden
reply to post by bhornbuckle75
You think we're being the cxrybabies??? Because you're a big chicken# pussie, you expect us to let our rights be violated.
The way it should work is that some airlines will implement stricter controls for pussies like you, and some will implement lesser controls for those that don't wish to be hasseled.
Jaden
"The fact that he was able to carry on undetected for so long is bad. That he was stopped at least once with guns in his bags and was then allowed to catch his flight is astonishing."
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
I would rather have pat downs than be x-rayed by those cancer causing machines.
What about you guys? Is it better to lose your dignity or your life???
Thanks for allowing my 2 cents.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
Honestly speaking, I cant see this argument going anywhere. The terms to fly is you must submit to the security in place. Since TSA is not operating under the color of law, they carry different authority, as well as requirements, than what law enforcement has (they have more authority than we do at times).
He does not have to subject to the pat down / frisk / search. The tradeoff on that is he wont be allowed to fly. Even if we remove all security checkspoints and let whomever have access, you still run into the same thing.
The moment you make it to the airplane entrance, you can be refused boarding. Its a private business, and the airplanes themselves are also private property, with the Captain having ultimate authority over that domain.
The constitution gaurantees freedom of movement, within a state border as well as across a state boarder. What it does not do is guarantee the method of travel. The options exist to fly, drive, call a cab, by a bus ticket, ride a bike, or even use shoe leather express.
While I agree with the majority of people about the T&A... errr TSA gropedown, I think approaching the argument from this manner will not go anywhere.
The question is, what can be done to improve or replace the patdowns? I know we all complain about it, but what is the solution?
Originally posted by Portugoal
Wait, after all the hoopla around the TSA pat downs, you're telling me he's the first person to file a law suit?
Originally posted by DaMod
Jesse Ventura.. So what if he used to be a professional wrestler... There are lot worse things a person could be.... Consistently he confronts TPTB and calls them on their short comings. Now he sticks it to the TSA.. Good.. I wish more people would..
and yes Jesse Ventura or Ron Paul (or both on a ticket) 2012
Originally posted by Odessy
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
I was having a talk over break about these new procedures, and my dad turned to me and said, look, if I wanted to do some damage on a plane I would pull the emergency hatch and everyone not buckled in would fly out. Cant do a pat down for that TSA!
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
Honestly speaking, I cant see this argument going anywhere. The terms to fly is you must submit to the security in place. Since TSA is not operating under the color of law, they carry different authority, as well as requirements, than what law enforcement has (they have more authority than we do at times).
He does not have to subject to the pat down / frisk / search. The tradeoff on that is he wont be allowed to fly. Even if we remove all security checkspoints and let whomever have access, you still run into the same thing.
The moment you make it to the airplane entrance, you can be refused boarding. Its a private business, and the airplanes themselves are also private property, with the Captain having ultimate authority over that domain.
The constitution gaurantees freedom of movement, within a state border as well as across a state boarder. What it does not do is guarantee the method of travel. The options exist to fly, drive, call a cab, by a bus ticket, ride a bike, or even use shoe leather express.
While I agree with the majority of people about the T&A... errr TSA gropedown, I think approaching the argument from this manner will not go anywhere.
The question is, what can be done to improve or replace the patdowns? I know we all complain about it, but what is the solution?