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They finally released some of his mothers passport documentation but not the records needed which they claim are "missing". How convenient is it that just the records needed are missing?
Originally posted by ZindoDoone
If Obama senior was not in the country at least 9 months before the birth or his mother was out of the country for the conception, then neither party was in the US for the prerequisite 1 or 5 years that is required under law! Don't need a birth certificate to check this as Passport records of who and when you cross our borders in either direction, legally, are kept indefinitely! Also I believe that this is a 'Public Record'!
The passport services official says in the cover letter that the some earlier passport application records noted in subsequent filings could not be found. Any possible 1960/1961 passport application paper work information that has been postulated by researchers studying Obama's early life narrative is missing from this released information. The link to a passport application in the early 60s would be to see the passport application filed in 1965. The application paper work for a known passport issued on July 19, 1965 is missing. How convenient that key pieces of information about Obama and his family's early life always turns up missing! This reminds me of the two missing pages in the Stanley Ann and Lolo Soetoro divorce file.
Does the location of his father matter?
Originally posted by ZindoDoone
I notice that they don't mention where 'Pappy' was in those documents! Nor, does it seem, that any exist that show him crossing our borders either before or after Barry-Barrack-Sotero-Obama was conceived.
I agree.
Originally posted by daryllyn
I don't really understand why going to get it would be a problem, its not like they are lacking money or transportation.
Yes if that video is true, then Fukino lied, but I have no idea if it's true or not.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
Didn't some female in charge of health records say she saw the birth certificate? Was she lying to protect Obama? Strange, I just saw this video on you tube:
www.youtube.com...
The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details.
Originally posted by macman
Does it really matter at this point?
He is a bum and needs to be bounced out of office 2014.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Does the location of his father matter?
Originally posted by ZindoDoone
I notice that they don't mention where 'Pappy' was in those documents! Nor, does it seem, that any exist that show him crossing our borders either before or after Barry-Barrack-Sotero-Obama was conceived.
The reason his mother matters so much is for several reasons, primarily where was she when she gave birth, was she doing any traveling about that time, etc?
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by macman
Does it really matter at this point?
He is a bum and needs to be bounced out of office 2014.
2012. Sorry about that.
Originally posted by jibeho
The story keeps getting deeper with Obama.
Obama''s own words are enough to stir doubt in any rational mind which is why this issue is so controversial. Read his auto bio and compare it to his later statements in speeches and interviews. Look at the information in newspaper articles and interviews with him long before he was president or Senator. Study some statements made by Michelle regarding Obama's mother. This cover up is deeper than a simple citizenship issue.
Step back to 2009
The comment, by Obama himself at a 2009 international meeting, suggested he was born seven months earlier than when his official story has claimed all along.
Freudian slip, misstatement or the truth leaking out?
It was in April 19, 2009, at a press conference Obama gave at the Port of Spain in Trinidad and Tobago, Obama responded to an hour-long diatribe that had been delivered by Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega at the meeting the day before, and Obama suggested he was born in January 1961, three months before the Bay of Pigs invasion.
This is what Obama said ""I'm grateful President Ortega did not blame me for things that happened when I was three months old."
Read more: Questions raised over Obama birth date www.wnd.com...
PORT OF SPAIN, TRINIDAD -- "To move forward, we cannot let ourselves be prisoners of past disagreements," President Obama said to the Summit of the Americas this evening. "I'm very grateful that President Ortega did not blame me for things that happened when I was 3 months old."
Mr. Obama was referring to the 52-minute airing of grievances by Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega, which ran through decades of what he saw as American imperialism. When discussing the Bay of Pigs invasion, which was launched 48 years ago, Mr. Ortega said he didn't blame Mr. Obama for it, since according to Cuban President Raoul Castro, the invasion happened when Barack Obama was 3-and-a-half months old at the time.
Maybe Obama simply is not smart he thinks he is
from the article
If Obama had been born in January 1961, that would have given his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, some seven months to recover from the birth of baby Barack Obama Jr. before she travelled from Hawaii to the mainland to attend college.
As WND has reported, the documentary evidence shows that within three weeks of Aug. 4, 1961, Ann Dunham was in Seattle with the infant Barack Obama Jr. Dunham enrolled at the University of Washington in extension courses beginning Aug. 19, 1961, and she remained in Seattle attending the University of Washington, returning to Hawaii only after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard University.
I have researched the information regarding Ann Dunham and it is documented and has yet to be refuted.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by Billmeister
Being from Canada, I have been following this debate from afar, and quite honestly am not sure quite what to make of it.
BUT, if you ask me for my birth certificate, I can go get an official copy within the week,
You mean you still have your original birth certificate from birth?