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Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by lastrebel
I'm not saying it's right, I am saying it's how it is. If you don't believe it's the truth then don't.
Originally posted by Sphota
This is not a situation of quid pro quo. Police are human beings and deserve dignity as much as the people they serve and, unfortunately, the ones they arrest as well.
We had two police shot on Thursday last week down here (down in Miami). They put the memorial service for the two law enforcement officers on Monday and it was put on the local AM station. I listened to quite a bit of it and I was moved by the personal statements of family and colleagues of the two murdered officers.
I was not, however, incredibly pleased with some of the statements of the clergy that spoke at the event. They turned the act of policing into a battle of good versus evil, and as with anything, it is not that simple. The police are not warriors for Jesus Christ. The criminals are not minions of Satan. Simplifying the current situation in the US into a religious parable is not reasonable and ignores major social and economic factors that lead to crime.
Poverty and Oppression cause crime. People do not inherently commit crime. As Paulo Freire, emminent Brazilian Pedagog realized this within the context of the Brazilian military dictatorship of the 60s, 70s and 80s. He saw a link between the oppression and the lashing out of the oppressed.
Unfortunately, as we can see from recent acts of police storming the favelas (slums) around Rio, his message was not heeded.
As far as this nation (the US) is concerned, when unemployment is high; when people have already been living in narcotic havens and slums; when 99 weeks is up and there are no jobs because people are not hiring the unemployed, the older, the uneducated...when all of this happens, why is anyone surprised that the outcome is high crime, high violence, high oppression, high exploitation and a high level of lashing out against the face of the oppressing authority.
This is not a question of Satan's minions attempting to corrupt Jesus Christ's suburbia. Paulo Freire realized that the oppressed will just as easily become the oppressors. Look at the control mechanism of fear and violence in the ghettos and slums of this country. The police will never fix the problem. They can't, it's not within their "tool box." True reform will come from social movements and educational reform. The drug war is not solving the problem. The problem is not the availability of drugs,it is the criminalization of addiction, which is already a symptom of larger social ills.
Let's stop scratching at the surface, shall we? Let's stop using band-aids for gaping social wounds.
. Imagine a world without douchebags. Yah know they are the freakin problem, who do ya think...invented gun powder? ....You got it, a freaking DOUCHEBAG!!!!!ii PEACE!
Originally posted by Beyond Creation
Imagine a world without gun powder.
Police fear 'war on cops'
we could certainly live without'em.
You dont want police?
why would i call anyone? i'm busy dealing with a robber
Who are you going to call when you're being robbed?
ppl don't call cops for protection, they call them to report crime.
When you need to call someone to come protect you or someone else?
that's why they are paid so well - risk vs reward (basic logic there)
Cause at great risk to their own safety
not anywhere on this planet, including the USA.
they will show up and assist anyone who needs their help.
Total Fatalities 177 153
Firearms-related 71 59
Traffic-related 64 71
Other Causes 42 23
Originally posted by theendisnear69
Oh poor cops.
I'll feel bad about a war on cops, when they stop punching women, tazing helpless people, and shooting pot smokers.
Th police definitley have it coming to them. Pretty much everyone I know agrees that cops are stepping way over their boundaries in this society.edit on 24-1-2011 by theendisnear69 because: grammar