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Police brutality, and what we can really do about it

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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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Brutal police officers and other leo's behave like they do because they know, in all likelihood they will not be prosecuted by those with the power and obligation to do so. Why might this be? One guess is that when leo's are found guilty, usually a lawsuit against the city or county is then filed. It so happens that because the money that pays the prosecutors salary comes from the city/county, they are pre-disposed to favor the side of the municipality as opposed to the victim. The states' attorney general has an obligation to make sure that county prosecutors arent derilict in their duties. That said, contacting the states atty. general about complaints aimed at any prosectorial staff member, is fruitless because they dont represent individuals or victims, they represent the state. My question is what can we really do about it? Answer= dont re-elect? Please offer suggestions to solve this problem, and allow other members to expand on your ideas. Lets see if the power of 200,000 + members here at ats, can actually join forces and come up with an idea to help this country move forward. My first suggestion might be drug screen all leos involved in a situation where it was decided "force" was the ONLY option.




posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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Police brutality, and what we can really do about it


We can not be idiots, don't run from the police, don't try to strike or push a police officer, don't resist or overly complicate interactions with them....don't be an idiot and put yourself in a position where force is necessary.


Honestly...I have yet to see a video on ATS of "police brutality" where the person wasn't asking for it.
edit on 24-1-2011 by OutKast Searcher because: spelling fails



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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Robert Menard had a good idea about how we can assign our own 'peace officers'. this way if they get stopped by a revenue agent, the revenue agent is breaking the law. This could also help to wake up some police!



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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Nothing you can do, even when it was proven i have never committed any crimes in my life, i still have not these people in london out of my life. They care not about you committing crimes, they just want to target anyone they want, usually for there friends.

Any idea of stopping police and there crimes is futile, just make sure you never do anything if your targeted, at least my life has proven these scum called police are effectively murderers.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by G.A.G.
 



Police brutality, and what we can really do about it


We can not be idiots, don't run from the police, don't try to strike or push a police officer, don't resist or overly complicate interactions with them....don't be an idiot and put yourself in a position where force is necessary.


Honestly...I have yet to see a video on ATS of "police brutality" where the person wasn't asking for it.
edit on 24-1-2011 by OutKast Searcher because: spelling fails


Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's nonexistent. I was a victim of police brutality and I did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG. It's out there. I'm not saying all (or even most) cops are like that, but it does happen, it's happened to me. The fact of the matter is that 9 times out of 10, they are gonna believe the cop's word over yours in court when you try to do something about it.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Thankyou for the reply, however my concern is what can we "DO"? You listed dont do's, which in fact is true. But, for those rogue cops out there who do in fact go overboard, there needs to be accountability at some point, or like children, they'll continue to exhibit poor judgement and dangerous behavior.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's nonexistent. I was a victim of police brutality and I did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG.


Most of the videos posted here on ATS have members saying that the people did absolutely nothing wrong. So I would need to know more about your situation to make a call on the "absolutely nothing wrong" part.

I'm not saying it isn't out there...but the examples brought on ATS are weak and show most of the time that the person is being an idiot. I know there are cases of true unprovoked police brutality...but I judge those on an individual basis and blame the individual police officer...not all police I ever see.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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My life has proven factually that police target innocent people in london, so you can believe what you want. I have had no privacy in 19 years now and counting, and its been proved to these scum that not one crime.

So how come they are still in my life. Its because they want to virtually kill an innocent person for not being them period. My life has proven police to be targeting innocent people and they did everything under sun to get me to do something.

Then we have people like you coming on here saying oh no the police did nothing.

How the police work is they assume everyone has done something, and then when they target you its fair game, but what about if you did nothing, like in my case, and this has been proven to these dimwits(police), so they out to destroy my life till i die.

If they are doing this to me, they must of done this to others, and the polcie and the majority of them must know about these sorts of things, i.e targeting people for no reason.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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They just gotta do REAL mental evaluations by real Psychologist or Psychiatrist and get points assigned to them by the evaluating person. This I feel will help find hidden issues within many who are LEO. I am sure this is already done but it seems not to be done well. They got to realize that with them carrying the gang mentality they are only forcing the streets to adapt to their aggression with more aggression. I dont think its impossible but it will take a lot of work.

See many feel that police not all but many who join were the how shall 1 say runts of their peer social classes. And some feel since this is a major force joining they are joining to fulfill their long time obsession to feel in CONTROLL this leads to so many probs. I mean I have witnessed the policia many times in action just from my youthful days of trying to understand rights and wrongs in life I wasnt perfect. And when I was that young rebellious teen back in the day and they would pull up on me and some femal and male friends & make us feel like less citizens because we were young they basically made the whole community of children say ftp. If they would of had a more passionate approach with the youth and not a HEY YOU LISTEN AND YOU BETTER LISTEN WELL approach they would of got better responses from the youth. Instead when they came around and would hop out in their gangster modes mindstates mean ars faces with guns drawn ON YOUTH bp. vested chest poked out talking to us like we werent people hey many of us said fk them too, WE ON OUR OWN and thanks for letting us know. The WE ARE ON OUR OWN IS ANOTHER MAJOR ISSUE. I am not saying its impossible but its just that the police when we as young children are fed to us as the perffects of society show their tru colors it makes it hard to believe they are really here to help and not just collect a pay (a job).

Perfect example I will never forget. A child named Micheal Elirbe RIP was running from police as they said smh yes running he was told stop he didnt and was 12 THE STATE TROOPER SHOT HIM IN HIS BACK KILLED HIM. THERE WS ALL THIS PROPAGANDA ABOUT HIM POSSIBLY HAVING SOMETHING IN HIS HAND ECT. But in the end the cop got smacked on wrist sent home YOU GUESSED IT WITH PAY. It was shoved under the carpet and a done deal once the boys dad got some money.. Nothing more in public eye went on except. Eventually a few years later a guy was aluding the police and he was said to of gotten reckless. He was shot to death by THE SAME COP WHO KILLED THE 12 YEAR OLD. NOW this is my point believe it or not THE COP IS a KILLER NOW JUST AS BAD AS ANY OTHER KILLER HENCE HE KEEPS KILLING -its in his blood frequency to do so. This is what I mean he needed mental checked and still was allowed back into force and killed another. LEO need a lot of work but its easier for them to keep it moving and get paid. I dont think an official above them can help, it has to be done from within. Which will get funny because as soon as some or even many start talking bout their brothers in blue they WILL BE LABELED "SNITCH" by cops wtf SOUNDS LIKE THE CRIPS TO ME UM JUST SAYEN...

Peace and if you are really trying to help them good luck. I just think humanity is to tainted with greed to be able to pull it off w/o major layoffs and positions shift.
be well.
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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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Good insight and well thought out post! Most local news agencies are owned by bigger enterprises located well outside their viewing areas, and they choose what NOT to show or write about. Therefore, local news agencies stop reporting on these matters because they are told to. Regional news embargoes are the norm here in this country and I genuinly believe are part of the reason strocities like this are ABLE to be swept under the carpet enabling the leos to continue un-abated.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by G.A.G.
 



Police brutality, and what we can really do about it


We can not be idiots, don't run from the police, don't try to strike or push a police officer, don't resist or overly complicate interactions with them....don't be an idiot and put yourself in a position where force is necessary.


Honestly...I have yet to see a video on ATS of "police brutality" where the person wasn't asking for it.
edit on 24-1-2011 by OutKast Searcher because: spelling fails


There is a difference between justifiable force and unnecessary and unjustifiable force/brutality.

And just because someone does something "stupid" does not mean that unnecessary force/brutality is justified against the individual.

While this thread/video only shows a part of what happens, i see no way that this individual was asking for anything. The brutality was completely unnecessary, IMO: ATS Thread

But that guy probably deserved it...


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What can we do about it? Keep the recording devices rolling, don't let this happen: Judge says no 1st Amendment right to record cops, know ones rights, and have an attorney who is not afraid to challenge and to hold accountable those involved in criminal activities and corruption.
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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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Honestly...I have yet to see a video on ATS of "police brutality" where the person wasn't asking for it. [

you might want to see this video and then retract this statement
www.youtube.com...
www.usatoday.com...



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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watch this too
www.youtube.com...
if a cop did that to me id get up of the floor and smash the bike through his ###$@ head . .
I challenge any of you sheep to defend the two cops in the videos i have posted .

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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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Umm...stop shooting at them?

On any given day, such violence against police officers would be disturbing. But the fatalities capped a particularly violent 24 hours in the United States for the men and women in blue. Eleven police officers were shot. news.blogs.cnn.com...


www.odmp.org...



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Umm...stop shooting at them?

On any given day, such violence against police officers would be disturbing. But the fatalities capped a particularly violent 24 hours in the United States for the men and women in blue. Eleven police officers were shot. news.blogs.cnn.com...


www.odmp.org...


Luc
thanks, I was gonna post that link to the 11 Officers
killed in 24 hrs but you beat me to it by a min or 2.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:58 PM
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Someone just started a thread on this too. I posted it a bit ago in the two officers down in Detroit thread too. Been a tough year so far.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Umm...stop shooting at them?

On any given day, such violence against police officers would be disturbing. But the fatalities capped a particularly violent 24 hours in the United States for the men and women in blue. Eleven police officers were shot. news.blogs.cnn.com...


www.odmp.org...




Did you ever stop to think that, maybe the reason people are shooting at them is because they are fed up with all the police brutality and corruption? The people know what's going on, they see these guys getting away with crap every day, its only a matter of time before somebody snaps and decides to fight back.

If good cops would grow a backbone and report and arrest their fellow officers when they cross the line, shootings like that might be avoided.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Honestly...I have yet to see a video on ATS of "police brutality" where the person wasn't asking for it.


Although I do not doubt that there are some police officers who over react, I too have to admit a deficit of evidence that the brutality is rife. There are plenty of videos in the public domain of brutality directed to police officers, sometimes by people who cry foul when they get a robust response.

Regards



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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Of course I do. Who wouldn't? So shooting at cops is okay because they might beat you up? I see. Shooting at cops because they're trying to apprehend you for a crime is fine? Are you serious?

There are two sides to it. The one side I'm sure will be well represented in this thread...that's almost guaranteed by its very title...and I might add probably goes a long way toward propagating the hate and tension....the other isn't always.

The question asked is what can we do about it. My answer was perfectly valid. The "snapping" works both ways.


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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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what do the 4 posts above have to do with police brutality ? Like you have already said there is a thread for your subject . The op has a great thread here and it shouldn't be diluted like this



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