Originally posted by maloy
They began to cleanse all non-Muslims from Chechnya. Thousands of Russians who lived there were killed by the militants, and over one hundred thousand Russians were forced to flee the region.

This story (which is true) is never mentioned in the Western media. They would literally throw you out in the street and take your house. Somehow this didn't concern anybody.

Originally posted by Canslli
I never said that i felt it was necessary. By "called for" i wanted to say that the actions of the russian government led to a reaction of the chechens. That's it. That's what i said.

You were wrong, the Chechens started attacks and which can be termed terror on Russians even before the First Chechen War. It is the Russian government that responded to violence, not the other way around. These actions, which continue to this day, are not the result of any action by the Russian government. They are a result of nationwide, and in some sense a worldwide, efforts by the Fanatical Islamists to force their bigoted and barbaric rules on everyoje else.

Originally posted by Canslli
You guys are throwing stones at me like i was a supporter of the chechens, but i never said that.

You might as well have supported them. Saying the attacks were "called for" can be interpreted as something very negative, and is out of place in threads on tragic attacks like this.

Originally posted by Canslli
I'm actually sad to see a conflict where, since 2009, almost 300 russians and 600 chechens have died. For what? As always, money and power.

The Russians that died since 2009, are soldiers and police, killed by militants' attacks. Nearly all of the Chechens that died were criminals and armed militants, not civilians.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
They are not Russian or Chechnians etc. To simply imply that they are ignorant or stupid because they don't focus on whats transpiring half a world away or that there is a conspiracy about the Media not covering it is just lame. Does the average Russian/Chechnians know what went on in my neck of the woods lately? The {Pacific North West}

It's all a matter of perspective I suppose.
Just saying is all.

I agree with you. However there are so many Westerners that must share their smart-ass opinion and criticize others about every matter in the world like they are on some moral high-ground, without even doing basic research about what they are commenting on. Normally I couldn't really care less, but when people comment about tragic events like this and say things like "the Russians deserve it" or that there was a justification for the attacks - I take an issue with it.

No doubt that when 9/11 happened, some people in Russia behaved similarly, and I frown on their ignorant and disrespectful attitudes just as much. If you are going to criticize, especially so pashionately, then one should at least bother to research the topic in depth.

Originally posted by maloy
I agree with you. However there are so many Westerners that must share their smart-ass opinion and criticize others about every matter in the world like they are on some moral high-ground, without even doing basic research about what they are commenting on. Normally I couldn't really care less, but when people comment about tragic events like this and say things like "the Russians deserve it" or that there was a justification for the attacks - I take an issue with it.

Agreed.

No doubt that when 9/11 happened, some people in Russia behaved similarly, and I frown on their ignorant and disrespectful attitudes just as much. If you are going to criticize, especially so pashionately, then one should at least bother to research the topic in depth.

Agreed.

However you've been here longer than I have and know how many posters on a { whole variety } of topics simply post their opinions with no understanding of the facts/history or WORSE come in with known disinformation thinking they will educate the masses etc. All it does in muddy the waters of the truth.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
It was reported in the Western media. How old are you? How far back does your memory serve you? It was in the Western News all the time. Maybe you had other interests at the time or maybe too young to remember? Many stories made the headlines....

I think I'm slightly older than you are, I'm ethnically Russian and had access to both Western and Russian sources all this time. My memory seems to be in order. I would guess you misunderstood the angle of ethnic cleansing against the Russians. This wasn't reported here to any significant extent.

Note that this goes beyond specific attacks by the Chechen paramiltary. It was a daily routine where the Russians were abused, threatened, beaten up and murdered.

The murderers of innocent are the lowest form of all humans , no matter who they may be .

But let's not forget a little fact that most of the Caucasian nations would prefer more independence from Russia .

More like their eastern european , ex-soviet partners , giving the chance , most Caucasian nations would like to become a member of EU .

These aspirations exists and these aspirations are righteous too .

Does the Desire to have freedom from central power justified ?

Maybe Russia has a chance to re-invent e-democracy for the NWO ?

Create a working model to be emulated by others ?

Say what ?

Killing of the Chechen Nation ?

Baaa-aah , small price to pay comrade , small price indeed .



Is Russia a player in the nwo or not ?

Originally posted by BenIndaSun
Interesting that security measures were not in use. Laziness by the staff, faulty equipment...or ordered?

Wait, all indications have always been that the blast took place in an unsecured area, past the check point, in arrivals. What's your point?