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posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 05:10 AM
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I never said that i felt it was necessary. By "called for" i wanted to say that the actions of the russian government led to a reaction of the chechens. That's it. That's what i said.

You guys are throwing stones at me like i was a supporter of the chechens, but i never said that. I'm actually sad to see a conflict where, since 2009, almost 300 russians and 600 chechens have died. For what? As always, money and power.




posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by maloy
They began to cleanse all non-Muslims from Chechnya. Thousands of Russians who lived there were killed by the militants, and over one hundred thousand Russians were forced to flee the region.


This story (which is true) is never mentioned in the Western media. They would literally throw you out in the street and take your house. Somehow this didn't concern anybody.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by Canslli
I never said that i felt it was necessary. By "called for" i wanted to say that the actions of the russian government led to a reaction of the chechens. That's it. That's what i said.


You were wrong, the Chechens started attacks and which can be termed terror on Russians even before the First Chechen War. It is the Russian government that responded to violence, not the other way around. These actions, which continue to this day, are not the result of any action by the Russian government. They are a result of nationwide, and in some sense a worldwide, efforts by the Fanatical Islamists to force their bigoted and barbaric rules on everyoje else.



Originally posted by Canslli
You guys are throwing stones at me like i was a supporter of the chechens, but i never said that.


You might as well have supported them. Saying the attacks were "called for" can be interpreted as something very negative, and is out of place in threads on tragic attacks like this.



Originally posted by Canslli
I'm actually sad to see a conflict where, since 2009, almost 300 russians and 600 chechens have died. For what? As always, money and power.


The Russians that died since 2009, are soldiers and police, killed by militants' attacks. Nearly all of the Chechens that died were criminals and armed militants, not civilians.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by maloy
They began to cleanse all non-Muslims from Chechnya. Thousands of Russians who lived there were killed by the militants, and over one hundred thousand Russians were forced to flee the region.


This story (which is true) is never mentioned in the Western media. They would literally throw you out in the street and take your house. Somehow this didn't concern anybody.




It was reported in the Western media. How old are you? How far back does your memory serve you? It was in the Western News all the time. Maybe you had other interests at the time or maybe too young to remember? Many stories made the headlines....

Published: May 5, 1997


Maverick Chechen Rebel Says He Ordered Attacks

Mr. Raduyev, who is not part of Chechnya's postwar leadership, has vowed to attack Russian targets and has demanded that Moscow recognize Chechnya's independence. He is wanted for organizing a deadly raid in January 1996 in Dagestan.

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posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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But how many people read those stories or remember them now? The majority of non-Russians are absolute oblivious to the facts and history surrounding the conflict and how it started. Plus many of those stories and articles seem to put the blame on individual "bad apples" among Chechnyan militants - when it reality this was an organized effort from the top of the militants' command chain.


How many people know about the ethnical cleansing of Russians in Chechnya, and the taking of Russian slaves by Chechen families? How many people know about how Dudayev shuttered all businesses, industries, and universities in Chechnya, and declared that a man's job is to make war?
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posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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Oh I hear ya, but.

That was a blanket statement. Of course people are not going remember. Americans will focus on the local/national news like the local grocery store being robbed or the latest debuckle on wall street etc.

They are not Russian or Chechnians etc. To simply imply that they are ignorant or stupid because they don't focus on whats transpiring half a world away or that there is a conspiracy about the Media not covering it is just lame. Does the average Russian/Chechnians know what went on in my neck of the woods lately? The {Pacific North West}

It's all a matter of perspective I suppose.
Just saying is all.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
They are not Russian or Chechnians etc. To simply imply that they are ignorant or stupid because they don't focus on whats transpiring half a world away or that there is a conspiracy about the Media not covering it is just lame. Does the average Russian/Chechnians know what went on in my neck of the woods lately? The {Pacific North West}

It's all a matter of perspective I suppose.
Just saying is all.


I agree with you. However there are so many Westerners that must share their smart-ass opinion and criticize others about every matter in the world like they are on some moral high-ground, without even doing basic research about what they are commenting on. Normally I couldn't really care less, but when people comment about tragic events like this and say things like "the Russians deserve it" or that there was a justification for the attacks - I take an issue with it.

No doubt that when 9/11 happened, some people in Russia behaved similarly, and I frown on their ignorant and disrespectful attitudes just as much. If you are going to criticize, especially so pashionately, then one should at least bother to research the topic in depth.
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posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by maloy
I agree with you. However there are so many Westerners that must share their smart-ass opinion and criticize others about every matter in the world like they are on some moral high-ground, without even doing basic research about what they are commenting on. Normally I couldn't really care less, but when people comment about tragic events like this and say things like "the Russians deserve it" or that there was a justification for the attacks - I take an issue with it.


Agreed.


No doubt that when 9/11 happened, some people in Russia behaved similarly, and I frown on their ignorant and disrespectful attitudes just as much. If you are going to criticize, especially so pashionately, then one should at least bother to research the topic in depth.


Agreed.

However you've been here longer than I have and know how many posters on a { whole variety } of topics simply post their opinions with no understanding of the facts/history or WORSE come in with known disinformation thinking they will educate the masses etc. All it does in muddy the waters of the truth.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
It was reported in the Western media. How old are you? How far back does your memory serve you? It was in the Western News all the time. Maybe you had other interests at the time or maybe too young to remember? Many stories made the headlines....


I think I'm slightly older than you are, I'm ethnically Russian and had access to both Western and Russian sources all this time. My memory seems to be in order. I would guess you misunderstood the angle of ethnic cleansing against the Russians. This wasn't reported here to any significant extent.

Note that this goes beyond specific attacks by the Chechen paramiltary. It was a daily routine where the Russians were abused, threatened, beaten up and murdered.
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posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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The murderers of innocent are the lowest form of all humans , no matter who they may be .

But let's not forget a little fact that most of the Caucasian nations would prefer more independence from Russia .

More like their eastern european , ex-soviet partners , giving the chance , most Caucasian nations would like to become a member of EU .

These aspirations exists and these aspirations are righteous too .

Does the Desire to have freedom from central power justified ?

Maybe Russia has a chance to re-invent e-democracy for the NWO ?

Create a working model to be emulated by others ?

Say what ?

Killing of the Chechen Nation ?

Baaa-aah , small price to pay comrade , small price indeed .



Is Russia a player in the nwo or not ?



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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Whether you like Russia, or not (not), it is muslim extremists who are taking innocent lives! Remember all those school children blown up by terrorists? What did they call them in the media? "Czechan rebels". Yes, they were from the Czech Republic. But the media didn't mention that they were "muslim terrorists" which is EXACTLY what they were.


Sorry dude but chechnya is in russia, the czech republic is a completely differant country. i've been both to czech and slovakia and can assure its pretty much christian dominated, chechyna on the other hand is like 95 % muslim or something to that degree.

I must admit Russia were wrong starting the war but the wars that followed were instigated by the muslims. the muslims that plan to bomb russia need to get it in the heads that because of them innocent checnyans will end up dieing when russia has had enough and go back.



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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Moscow's airport suicide bomber hesitated for 15 min - investigator


The suicide bomber who detonated an explosive device on Monday at Moscow's Domodedovo International Airport was hanging around the arrival zone for about 15 minutes before blowing himself up, an investigations source said on Thursday.




Investigators have identified the first suspect behind the attack as a Russian resident of the southern Stavropol region, the daily said.

The suspect, whose surname was revealed as Razdobudko, was allegedly a member of the Nogai Jamaat terrorist group, which was broken up in October, 2010, the paper said.

The source said Razdobudko could be one of the organizers or even one of the perpetrators of Monday's attack.



Suspect, Razdobudko Vitaliy Urievich




Nogai Jamaat is associated with Dagestan's Islamic North Caucasus Front, not the Chechnya Islamic Front.

Be that as it may,
it still falls under the control of the Islamic Caucaus Resistance leader Dokku Umarov, who is in charge of both regions, as can be seen in this Power Point Org Chart.











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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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Looks like the russian government is sure who it was;



Interesting that security measures were not in use. Laziness by the staff, faulty equipment...or ordered?



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by BenIndaSun
Interesting that security measures were not in use. Laziness by the staff, faulty equipment...or ordered?


Wait, all indications have always been that the blast took place in an unsecured area, past the check point, in arrivals. What's your point?



posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by makeitso

Nogai Jamaat is associated with Dagestan's Islamic North Caucasus Front, not the Chechnya Islamic Front.

Be that as it may,
it still falls under the control of the Islamic Caucaus Resistance leader Dokku Umarov, who is in charge of both regions, as can be seen in this Power Point Org Chart.



Looks like makeitso was correct.

Caucasus Emirate leader claims Moscow airport suicide attack



The leader of the Islamic Caucasus Emirate took credit for the deadly suicide attack at an airport in Russia's capital late last month.

In a videotape released on the Internet, Doku Umarov, the emir of the al Qaeda-linked Islamic Caucasus Emirate, claimed the Jan. 24 suicide attack at Domodedovo International Airport in Moscow that killed 35 people and wounded scores more.

The video was posted at the Dailymotion video site and announced by Kavkaz Center, a propaganda outlet for the Caucasus Emirate. The tape was recorded on Jan. 24, the same day as the Moscow suicide attack, according to Kavkaz Center.

"This special operation was carried out on my orders and, Allah willing, special operations like it will continue to be carried out," Umarov said.


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