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The ULTIMATE Way To Monitor The People Is Now Underway

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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 07:58 AM
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Now here's a question. With all of the Big Brother talk about how everything is, or soon will be monitored when do you think we will see an end to cash? Do you realize how much money the government could save by not printing cash? I don't know figures, but I know the paper itself is very costly, and the printing process is expensive. Multiply that by the amount of actual paper currency and it has to be a VERY large sum. Think about the cost of coins. The metals, and the minting process. Another extremely large sum I would suppose. Plus as an added bonus, there wouldn't be a single penny that is not accounted for. When they accomplish this, and I believe that they will you won't be able to do anything without them watching you.

I started a thread in Breaking News regarding End Of Credit Cards here, and didn't want to derail the thread with another question, so I started this thread.




posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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I dread the end of cash and view people who use debit cards and credit cards as enemies of freedom.
If we had a cashless society EVERYTHING will have to be accounted for digitally which means no more privacy.
I only use cash and there is no way to track what I buy and I believe its nobodies business what I buy.
In a cashless society bartering will be frowned on by the TPTB in the same way as tax evasion is today.

The people using plastic instead of cash are helping make a cashless society a reality.
edit on 24-1-2011 by DrumsRfun because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 08:19 AM
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The government pays the crooks to print money, the crooks lend money to the government,
the government pays the crooks interest on the loan, these same crooks control government.

Unless the crooks can come up with a better scam we will continue to have cash.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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I have mixed feeling about this one. I too like the freedom and privacy that cash allows and I try to use it as much as possible. There are also some transaction that have become almost impossible with cash though. If you want to rent a car and pay cash, you usually need a huge deposit.

Unfortunately, we already leave enough digital fingerprints to be monitored...our phones and cars or anything with GPS in it, our online banking and debit/credit purchases. If I think about a typical day, I usually travel the same route to and from work, use the same bank to cash my check and withdraw money, go to the same dry cleaners and bagel store on a Friday morning, etc. Along the way they are tons of traffic cams, security cams, etc. We really are monitored most of our lives.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 08:37 AM
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Problem with cashless soceity is your stuck on digital money. If you are an enemy of the state , or the enemy just wants to destroy you and make your life misrible all they have to do is turn off your digital montary system and thats it . Everywhere you go you can't buy food clothes shelter etc just because you did something the government didn't like . Now your stuck with no cash and relying on others to survive all because we signed up for cashless society lol. Least now you have the optiion of taking some cash going buying gold or silver moving up north and living as if the world has gone mad and your in your peaceful little zone of the earth .

Also with digital money its a checkpoint for tracking everytime you spend it . Kinda like how debit cards and credit cards are today . a check point for what time and place you were at .

Cash is our friend . Credit is the anti-particle of it lol



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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I am going the other way. I now keep very little money in the bank. I no longer have a credit card and only 1 debit card that I use to pay 2 bills that I cannot pay with cash. One of them is my car insurance company, and when my policy expires this time I will change companies. I have paid off all my debt and do everything else strictly cash. My cell phone also discourages cash, but I am thinking of moving to a burner phone type plan. Walmart has a good nation wide plan and you can pay cash with no contract. There is a good chance I will move to that when my cell contract expires in a few weeks.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Nothing new here..this has "been underway" now for decades. It's probably inevitable. Too many people still hide money in their mattresses for their taste, I'm sure, but the corporate lobbies will eventually win the day and there are enought megalomaniacs and ignorant servants in government who will support them.

Remember that one movie (Total Recall, maybe?) where the hero was on the run and they were able to cut off all his funds in the flip of a switch? Well they can and do already do that with our credit and debit cards. But imagine if that was our only way to pay. Pretty concerning.

Equally concerning is that everything you do pay for by card goes to data-mining operations that can tell both corporations and the government everything about you...right down to the books you read and the brand of toilet paper you prefer and including what you smoke and drink.

Pretty hairy when you think your health or life insurance company can track habits they can then used to deny you coverage for, What's worse is that 1.) the government lets corporations get away with this and 2.) the government is already providing far too freely our personal information that when put together with information that you might so callously and personally provide thinking it doesn't matter on sites like FaceBook helps them complete their picture of you.

Also, this cashless society would make this a very interesting world indeed if a solar storm were to knock out electronics and mess up all access to funds, wouldn't it?
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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Nothing new here..this has "been underway" now for decades. It's probably inevitable. Too many people still hide money in their mattresses for their taste, I'm sure, but the corporate lobbies will eventually win the day and there are enought megalomaniacs and ignorant servants in government who will support them.

Remember that one movie (Total Recall, maybe?) where the hero was on the run and they were able to cut off all his funds in the flip of a switch? Well they can and do already do that with our credit and debit cards. But imagine if that was our only way to pay. Pretty concerning.

Equally concerning is that everything you do pay for by card goes to data-mining operations that can tell both corporations and the government everything about you...right down to the books you read and the brand of toilet paper you prefer and including what you smoke and drink.

Pretty hairy when you think your health or life insurance company can track habits they can then used to deny you coverage for, What's worse is that 1.) the government lets corporations get away with this and 2.) the government is already providing far too freely our personal information that when put together with information that you might so callously and personally provide thinking it doesn't matter on sites like FaceBook helps them complete their picture of you.

Also, this cashless society would make this a very interesting world indeed if a solar storm were to knock out electronics and mess up all access to funds, wouldn't it?
edit on 1/24/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)


Very well said. I agree with you. Insurances of all types, including auto insurance can deny you based on summarizations from tracking. What about things like day care being scrutinized because you made a donation to your church. The list is endless. And while this has been talked about for a little while now, it is actually in progress right now. When things start, they tend to snowball. This will happen.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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Exactly. It will happen...and it's definitely both concerning and to keep our eyes on (yours are open lol) but there is still a way to go...I hope.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Exactly. It will happen...and it's definitely both concerning and to keep our eyes on (yours are open lol) but there is still a way to go...I hope.


I too, hope that it is a long ways away, however it is closer than we think I'm afraid. The monster has just woken up and in it's early morning stretch. Soon it will be up and about. Take a look at this chart. It shows money exchanges using only smart phones. No cards, no cash. Just a quick tap, or click from a smart phone.




The chart is from CNNMONEY.COM

Everything can and will be tracked. You can already buy a hot dog at the football game these days with a smart phone. A hot dog! And tell me that since it's pretty commonplace to read about a hacker hacking into phones, how much easier it will be for them to steal your money. Now they won't need to have the information imbedded in the strip on the back of the cards.

Even more dreadful will be trying to explain to the wife that "Hey. I only had a hot dog at the game." When she pulls up a stat, and says "Well, then who had the other 2 hot dogs, the pretzel, and the 2 beers?"

I try and make light of it, but in reality this is pretty scary. Think about it.
edit on 24/1/2011 by withopeneyes because: (no reason given)




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