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Originally posted by reatarded
reply to post by Mythkiller
The verse of 8:39 should be read in context, the context would come to life if you read the chapter from start to finish. For example in 8:15 it says: "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them". It is obvious that 8:39 is talking about war, more so it is talking about a specific war, for example in 8:30 it says "And when those who disbelieve plot against thee (O Muhammad) to wound thee fatally, or to kill thee or to drive thee forth; they plot, but Allah (also) plotteth; and Allah is the best of plotters".
Evidently it is talking about those disbelievers who were plotting to harm innocent Muslims, and harass the prophet Mohammad.
More so, the verses are talking about the time when Muslims were kicked out of Mekkah (from memory) and from reading the chapter, for example if you read 8:34 it says "What (plea) have they that Allah should not punish them, when they debar (His servants) from the Inviolable Place of Worship, though they are not its fitting guardians. Its fitting guardians are those only who keep their duty to Allah. But most of them know not".
The verse before 8:39 talks about prosecution of Mohammad once more, then it talks about fighting until prosecution is no more. It is good to read the verses of scriptures in the light of its context, otherwise the conclusion is completely corrupt. Here is what 8:38 says: "tell those who disbelieve that if they cease (from persecution of believers) that which is past will be forgiven them; but if they return (thereto) then the example of the men of old hath already gone (before them, for a warning)." See how it says to stop the prosecution of believers? Obviously when their is unjust prosecution, resistance is justified for.
So the verse 8:39 has conditions, Muslims have to be prosecuted and unjustly treated, in that scenario, Muslims are commanded to fight back, not to fight innocent disbelievers, but the guilty ones, hence the verse 8:30 talks about the disbeliever's plot to harm Muslims.
So unless important conditions are met, verse 8:39 shouldn't be applied.edit on 24-1-2011 by reatarded because: layout