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Wake up America: You're being herded into socialism/communism...stop thinking as an animal of prey

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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
We are now in the year 1954...


Last I checked we're in 2011, 57 years after your "proof" that the US is turning into a communist country. For crying out loud, don't you see how silly your claims are???

PS: Welcome to 2011!!




posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Maybe the leftist were not so keen to control what real estate agents were thinking - but as to future journalists, professors, judges, politicians ect ..............



Conservative professors must publish more than their liberal peers to be competitive for the same university jobs and promotions, according to new reports. At a conference sponsored by the American Enterprise Institute today in Washington, D.C., researchers from across the country will present 18 papers that they say document the growing liberal bias in academia.

"Universities are tilting to the left, and it starts at the student level and goes all the way through to the hiring level and even to the promotion level," the vice president and director of the National Research Initiative at AEI, Henry Olsen, said. "This is a real problem, not anecdote masquerading as fact."

In departments such as sociology and anthropology, "progressive" and "liberal" professors outnumber "conservative" and "libertarian" faculty members by a margin of at least 20 to 1, according to a new study by a husband and wife research team from George Mason University and the Swedish Institute for Social Research. The findings are based on dozens of national surveys about faculty voter behavior, policy views, and voter registration.

Some professors said a liberal bias is damaging the intellectual vitality of campus life, and they discourage conservative students from pursuing doctorate degrees in the humanities. "If my students show conservative bias, I steer them away from the academy," a professor of English at the University of Virginia, Paul Cantor, said. "They have no future — they will not get jobs. If they want to teach traditional works in a traditional matter, they have no future in an English department today."


www.nysun.com...



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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You do realize that scientific method actually prevents them from being biased when it comes to the content of their classes, right?

Also, American Enterprise Institute? Really? It's a CONSERVATIVE THINK TANK!! I'm sure they're totally unbiased when talking about bias, right?


At least get some unbiased sources, try again!


Also, like I said before, even if you had 100% solid proof that there is a significant bias...it should make you really think about why it is that the most intelligent people in the country favor the exact opposite views than you.
edit on 24-1-2011 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 10:56 AM
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Lets just try and to avoid stopping the progression of socialism in this country by turning to fascism.

Not that there is any real difference, but for some reason people, even here on the site that "denies ignorance", will eat up anything a politician says as long as it jives with their misconceived worldview often shaped by these very same people. It's ridiculous.

It'll be interesting over the next few years. They showed us, no matter how much propaganda they throw out there, that "hope and change" from a "liberal" (read; socialist, real liberals don't exist much anymore). Lets see how the new hope and change from the republican led house and likely soon senate and presidency proves different.

SPOILER: It won't but most of you people will eat it up even though the expansion of the federal government will continue. It'll just be more of a police state rather than a nanny state.

And to think, most of you should have learned from 01-08.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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man will always be man, there is no new man. we tried so hard to create a society that was equal, where there would be nothing to envy your neighbor. but there is always something to envy. a smile, a friendship, something you don't have and want to appropriate in this world, even a soviet one. there will always be rich and poor. rich in gifts, poor in gifts. rich in love, poor in love.......quote from the movie, enemy at the gates.

communism can never work and is utterly destructive. man has no worldly answers, but our forefather wrote a constitution and a bill of rights that give us hope.

protect this document with your lives, because the only thing you will have to look forwards to if you don't, is CHECKMATE.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by JohhnyBGood
 


You do realize that scientific method actually prevents them from being biased when it comes to the content of their classes, right?

Also, American Enterprise Institute? Really? It's a CONSERVATIVE THINK TANK!! I'm sure they're totally unbiased when talking about bias, right?


At least get some unbiased sources, try again!


Also, like I said before, even if you had 100% solid proof that there is a significant bias...it should make you really think about why it is that the most intelligent people in the country favor the exact opposite views than you.
edit on 24-1-2011 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)



George Mason University and the Swedish Institute for Social Research.

Doesn't sound like a right wing think tank to me!

It is not even worth dicussing - the leftist bias is that obvious, and well known.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by TexasChem


Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963

As you read this, 47years later, you should be shocked by the events that have played themselves out.

Here’s a partial list. I put GOAL #15 first, for obvious reasons:

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.


3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.


23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.


29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.


Anyone else recognize liberal Progressivism in all this? Sounds like the complete Democrat Party platform!
I can list several instances of every number listed above happening in American society being spear-headed with a thrust of Cultural Marxism disguised as Political Correctness.



Your number #15 says take over of both parties. But you are so bent on demonizing the dems that you forgot one very important thing: The Republicans were in complete control of the presidency, house and senate when The Patriot Act was made into law. You know, that document that threw our Constitution to the wind?
Now if you look at that list objectively instead of towing your party line
you will see that they have just about covered all bases and are practically ready for their next step. The question is: are you? You can't be if you are still dividing us into camps to play political paint ball.
We need to stop all debates that are tearing at the fabric of our Constitution, especially ones like Roe vs Wade



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by JohhnyBGood

It is not even worth dicussing - the leftist bias is that obvious, and well known.


Yeah, let's not even bother looking for facts, right? Easier to just make stuff up


Look, the entire study was founded by a CONSERVATIVE THINK TANK...the bias is obvious. But of course if it's your side being biased, it's not really being biased, right?



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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Unfortunately all governments fail because the human being is flawed, period. I like our gov simply because we have the right to change it, by force if need be. No other country is like that, so It would reason to not be like any other country or mimic any other system of gov. for that nature. But like I said, the human being is flawed and will continue to repeat history until all are destroyed. Even if you took away all weapons in the world you could not remove the knowledge of evil and man would start all over, destroying and enslaving his fellow man. Sorry for the bad news.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 11:11 AM
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I think Johnnybgood has made his mind up, no amount of logic, fact or intelligence will change that.

Yeah lefties run every single university in the world, conservatives are unbiased and socialism is the devil's work.




posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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I understand what you are saying but the documents themselves can never tower over the importance of the spirit and philosophy behind what is said.

Stop relying on an appeal to authority, either document or forefather, to support these things. As is written in those documents, the truths talked about are self evident for any self thinking rational individual that decides to use these things called thoughts to decide things for themselves. All these documents do is, or at least rather what they are supposed to do, is to create legal safeguards against eroding the liberties propagated in them. And it's pretty clear that failed to work.

Rely on your mind and reason, not ink, paper, and other peoples reasoning. Until you stop demanding them to follow the constitution and you start show casing that you inherently have these rights and no authority, otherwordly or human, has the ability to restrict these, you'll lose those freedoms.

Freedom isn't a state. It's a dynamic, chaotic, abstract concept that needs a struggle to keep in place as it will always erode over time. Until you use your voice rather than ink to support this well....we're pretty #ed.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by SpectreDC
reply to post by anumohi
 


I understand what you are saying but the documents themselves can never tower over the importance of the spirit and philosophy behind what is said.

Stop relying on an appeal to authority, either document or forefather, to support these things. As is written in those documents, the truths talked about are self evident for any self thinking rational individual that decides to use these things called thoughts to decide things for themselves. All these documents do is, or at least rather what they are supposed to do, is to create legal safeguards against eroding the liberties propagated in them. And it's pretty clear that failed to work.

Rely on your mind and reason, not ink, paper, and other peoples reasoning. Until you stop demanding them to follow the constitution and you start show casing that you inherently have these rights and no authority, otherwordly or human, has the ability to restrict these, you'll lose those freedoms.

Freedom isn't a state. It's a dynamic, chaotic, abstract concept that needs a struggle to keep in place as it will always erode over time. Until you use your voice rather than ink to support this well....we're pretty #ed.



I don't think you are correct in saying it is the Constitution's fault that liberties weren't fought for and the Constitution failed to work. I think greedy man is the culprit - and its more than one man.
The Constitution didn't fail us, We The People Failed the Constitution. It was meant to be protected, not used to tote party lines, make people pick sides and destroy any and all contents based on arguments presented by lobbiest who are in support of someone's interests besides ours, as in We The People.
Funny, but I think it rather ironic that you chose to use # 29


29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

from the list - and I thought it was communists who were tearing down our country. tisk tisk



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by DaWhiz

I don't think you are correct in saying it is the Constitution's fault that liberties weren't fought for and the Constitution failed to work.

I never said the constitution failed to work and is the fault that liberties were fought for. Take an English class and learn what reading comprehension is before replying to others please.

I said that people are putting too much faith into it believing a document can change/sway anyone into following it. The constitution has no power if no one supports the philosophy behind it.


I think greedy man is the culprit - and its more than one man.
The Constitution didn't fail us, We The People Failed the Constitution. It was meant to be protected, not used to tote party lines, make people pick sides and destroy any and all contents based on arguments presented by lobbiest who are in support of someone's interests besides ours, as in We The People.
Funny, but I think it rather ironic that you chose to use # 29


29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

from the list - and I thought it was communists who were tearing down our country. tisk tisk


What I find more ironic is your failure in properly reading what I said, completely misconstruing what I said in order to claim its ironic, and the very fact that you seem incapable of understanding what I am saying and calling it an attack on the constitution, pretty much making you part of the problem in this country.

I didn't discredit it. I didn't call it inadequate, old fashioned, or anything of the like. I said it doesn't matter when no one follows the philosophy exposed within the documents. If you don't follow in spirit with the documents, the documents are useless.

This has been proven by the very fact that people believe the constitution gives us rights, people who support the constitution often times express views completely against it, and the fact that our government has been failing to follow the constitution for over a century.

It's been shown that, outside of political #ery and party politics, the constitution doesn't matter to our government outside of the need to try to construe language to get around it.

But hey, if you want to put all your faith in a document without caring what it says and means, that's your prerogative. Just don't misconstrue what I say as an attack on the constitution (when its actually trying to protect and utilize it properly), calling it ironic when it isn't (seriously, stop raping the word people), and suggesting I'm saying anything like you suggested when the post is right above yours and anyone with a high school education, a functioning brain, and the ability to properly understand english can tell doesn't say A DAMN thing you suggest it does.

Beyond a legal document, beyond being the foundation of this nation, beyond any nigh-holy status you want to put on a piece of hemp paper and some old ink drafted hundreds of years ago, the constitution is an idea beyond its own physical existence and its purpose within this country. It's a statement that no man has the ability to impose their will on another, in any way or fashion, outside of doing that him or herself. Try to respect that, and stop caring about the hemp its written on.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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What I just read sounds like it could be applied to any totalitarian movement, including communism. I am a liberal and I do not agree with communism. I take it personally when people try to make people like me or anyone who is liberal out to be an enemy of the state and therefore worthy of some kind of terrible punishment. I can assure you that I, nor any of my many liberal friends and acquaintances want any of what is listed in your OP.

I'm tired of this demonizing and dehumanizing of a very large faction of American citizens who simply have a difference of opinion on how things should be ran in our country. Bush Jr. said, "If you're not with us, your with the terrorists" and everyone has interpreted this as "if your not with us, you're against us". What Bush Jr. and many people like you have been saying for ten years is "if you're not conservative, your a dirty commie who loves terrorists and are therefore an enemy of the state and deserve torture or death."

I'm so sick of it. I am a loving, caring human being. I wake up at 8. Go to work at 9. Come home at 5 and watch TV till I fall asleep at night. My friends and I love to go camping, sledding, having drinks at the bar and singing karaoke, BBQ'ing. Some of us are liberal. Some of us are Conservative. None of us hate eachother and call eachother names like "commie" or "nazi".

I have concern for the less fortunate. I have concern about people being taken advantage of by those who made up the rules of the game in their own favor. I have concern about any president, Democrat or Republican, that seeks to fuel unnecessary wars and squanders America's wealth while throwing the poor and downtrodden to the wolves. I have my views on how this should be handled. Others have a completely different view. Such is the nature of humanity. This does not mean that if I or anyone else holds an opposite view from you that I am trying to destroy America.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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We are NOT being herded into Socialism/Communism. We are being herded back into the Feudal Era.

That is what we will wake up to if we don't wake up now, if we wake up at all. And it is not just Americans, it is all over the Western world.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Don't think of it as a tax.

Think of it as a service fee for the privilege of living in a society where it's illegal to kill and eat you and your entire family and claim your home as my own. A service fee for the ability to travel on maintained roads, rather than spending the greater portion of the year chopping paths through wilderness to get towards the nearest hamlet. A service fee for the promise that if martians attack, the army will be there to fight them off. A service fee for the knowledge that when you're old and decrepit, you're not going to have to gum any peckers to afford cat food. A service fee for the privilege of having your children educated, even if you cannot afford the costs of private tuition. A service fee for all the grants, subsidaries, and bonuses that make it possible for you to eat a strawberry in december and fuel your car for less than ten bucks a gallon. A service fee for the ability to go to court, face witneses, present evidence, and be innocent unless proven guilty.

If you don't wanna pay taxes, well, tough; civilization isn't free.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
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I think Johnnybgood has made his mind up, no amount of logic, fact or intelligence will change that.

Yeah lefties run every single university in the world, conservatives are unbiased and socialism is the devil's work.





Well you havn't put forward any facts or logic to support your denials - I have shown you a survey of dozens of Universities conducted by the George Mason University and the Swedish Institute for Social Research - which you have somehow translated as a 'right wing think tank' - which in your mind seems to be instant grounds for dimissal - do you suppose that a left wing think tank is going to put out such a report!?

Here is a google page for leftist bias at universities - you might like to compare that with a search forarticles on conservative bias!

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Liberal bias in colleges bleeds into classroom - Campus Watch
31 Mar 2005 ... Columbia isn't the only university with bias problems when it comes to the Middle East. Checkout www.campus-watch.org for many more examples ...
www.campus-watch.org/article/id/1809 - Cached - Similar
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Universities' Growing Liberal Bias Is Documented - November 14 ...
14 Nov 2007 ... Conservative professors must publish more than their liberal peers to be competitive for the same university jobs and promotions, ...
www.nysun.com/new-york/universities...bias.../66418/ - United States - Similar
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Liberal Bias on Campus
Liberal Bias on Campus by John Eberhard 18 June 2004. The political tilt on campuses is decidedly to the left. If you're looking for balance, ...
www.intellectualconservative.com/article3514.html - Cached - Similar
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Daily Targum - Research examines political bias at University
1 Sep 2010 ... The liberal bias that seems apparent among students is also spotted ... at our university who attempt to indoctrinate us with Leftist pap. ...
www.dailytargum.com › University - Cached
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College Inc. - Report: Liberal bias at Howard, AU, U-Md., GWU, Va.Tech
10 Aug 2010 ... A conservative grass-roots organization that is profiling the politics of the nation's top 100 universities announced Tuesday that Howard ...
voices.washingtonpost.com/college-inc/.../analysis_finds_liberal_bias_at.html
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Jeffrey Alan Miron: The Liberal "Bias" in Academia
4 Aug 2006 ... How long until someone makes the argument that universities are dominated by leftists because universities are where the smart people hang ...
jeffreyalanmiron.typepad.com/jeffrey.../a_liberal_bias_.html - Cached - Similar
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I've Had Enough of the Liberal Bias on College Campuses | Facebook
Facebook is a social utility that connects people with friends and others who work, study and live around them. People use Facebook to keep up with friends, ...
www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2216510513 - Cached
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Professor Is a Label That Leans to the Left - NYTimes.com
17 Jan 2010 ... The overwhelmingly liberal tilt of university professors has been explained by everything from outright bias to higher I.Q. scores. ...
www.nytimes.com/2010/01/18/arts/18liberal.html - Similar
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Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist / UCLA Newsroom
14 Dec 2005... there is a quantifiable and significant bias in that nearly all of them lean to the left," said co‑author Jeffrey Milyo, University of ...
newsroom.ucla.edu › ... ›



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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This load of horsecrap made it to ATS did it.
great, more fringe right wing craptalk

This is about as meaningful as the underpants gnomes business plan from southpark

1) Collect Underpants
2) ???
3) Profit


You can make a list of anything with this method so long as making sense is not part of the agenda. I can tie right wing extremism into communism, or veganism...or anything else I want.
Goodwin's law.

I think I may in fact do a counter thread...tie loosely all right wing movements in the last 50 or so years to some sort of hitleresque facism...if I can be bothered.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Funny how the goobers on the right seem to be the only ones with the time to make up these huge "conclusive" lists, isn't it? It's like they've got nothing better to do. Kinda sad.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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Laughable...look at your sources for crying out loud!! You are talking about bias, but let's check out your sources, shall we?



A conservative grass-roots organization that is profiling the politics of the nation's top 100 universities


I'm sure they're unbiased, right?

Or look at this source: www.campus-watch.org

If you go over the site, you realize it's nothing but anti-Islam bullcrap...and which side is rallying against Muslims?

Or this one: www.intellectualconservative.com

Sounds unbiased?


And more: jeffreyalanmiron.typepad.com

A blog, really?

Or: www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2216510513

A Facebook group as proof...hilarious



Anyway, like I mentioned before...it should really make you think why the most intelligent people in your country are more liberal than you. Could it have something to do with intelligence...because if what you say true, then there's a positive correlation between being intelligent and being liberal



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