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Originally posted by whatukno
They shouldn't be Union jobs anyway, Union jobs are destroying this countries ability to employ Americans.
The problem with Unions is they limit Americans from getting these jobs. Why should I pay someone so that I can work? That doesn't sound like America, that sounds like communism to me.
Originally posted by whatukno
Tell you what, you want to see what Unions do for America? Visit Flint MI, Visit Detroit MI. You will see first hand what Unions do for America.
Want to keep your job? Do you know what I say? I say do your job well. There's nothing wrong with earning a living wage, unfortunately, Union employees don't actually have to WORK for a living wage, they can do whatever they want and the company just has to suck it up. It's next to impossible to fire a Union employee.
Wanna know why there are corrupt cops? Police Unions, wanna know why there are bad teachers? Teachers Unions. wanna know why Mexican companies are getting shipping contracts? Trucking Unions.
The recent snow storm debacle in New York perfectly symbolizes what is wrong with Unions. Unions in my opinion are bad for America.
Originally posted by aravoth
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wanna know why Mexican companies are getting shipping contracts? Trucking Unions.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Flatfish
I worked for a Kroger once, here's my experience...
I got a job as a night stock clerk, it was a second job for me because my then wife was pregnant at the time and could not work.
I was forced to join the union, even though I did not want to, as a condition of my employment. Working hard was discouraged, doing the job efficiently and making sure that the job was finished was discouraged. I was actually once told to slow down because I was making the rest of the crew look bad.
When I started I was part time, so I waited for a full time opening to become available, when one did and I went to bid on it, some other union thug would undercut me for the job, then not take the job. Just so that I wouldn't be able to get a full time job.
When my son was born I decided to see how unions really work, I no called no showed for a week, when I went back, I was written up once and still had my job. (actually at that point I didn't even want the job because I was so thoroughly disgusted with how the union crew worked.)
I observed one of the other night stock clerks facing items on one shelf for 4 hours. This is how they wanted me to work, do as little as possible for as long as possible, doing a good job was nearly forbidden. We were given breaks, and during the breaks all the other people could talk about was how they couldn't wait for when they could strike.
If you don't believe me, just ask your wife or girlfriend.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Flatfish
I worked for a Kroger once, here's my experience...
I got a job as a night stock clerk, it was a second job for me because my then wife was pregnant at the time and could not work.
In all honesty, I usually agree wholeheartedly with most of your opinions and post but this stance you have taken against all unions is just off track.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Flatfish
If you don't believe me, just ask your wife or girlfriend.
Little uncalled for don't you think? After all I am not disparaging you personally, don't think that you need to go there.
What I said was the truth, I was making these guys look bad. I was doing the job more efficiently and better than they were. It's not actually hard to put stuff on a shelf right.
Again, look at Flint, look at Detroit and tell me that Union jobs are good for the country, if they were so damn good for the country why aren't these cities world class places to live? Detroit is such a cesspool that it's a national joke.
When people in an area out price themselves, businesses are going to look elsewhere for employees. Foreign car companies down south pay a living wage, and there is no UAW down there. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Flatfish
If you don't believe me, just ask your wife or girlfriend.
Little uncalled for don't you think? After all I am not disparaging you personally, don't think that you need to go there.
What I said was the truth, I was making these guys look bad. I was doing the job more efficiently and better than they were. It's not actually hard to put stuff on a shelf right.
Again, look at Flint, look at Detroit and tell me that Union jobs are good for the country, if they were so damn good for the country why aren't these cities world class places to live? Detroit is such a cesspool that it's a national joke.
When people in an area out price themselves, businesses are going to look elsewhere for employees. Foreign car companies down south pay a living wage, and there is no UAW down there. Coincidence? I don't think so.
The fact is, Unions make the average employee cost WAY more, union leadership are corrupt and steal dues, they aren't really looking out for the employee, but looking out for their own bottom line. A good employee should be rewarded for hard work, not just because they have been there for 20 years.