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Shooting down a UFO?

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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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To all the sleeper cells out there, who would like to try to kill an space alien, if they had half the chance.
How can you shoot someone, if you can't see them? If the space aliens have a cloaking device for there space craft; which perhaps, maybe they do. Then why don't you think that they also have a cloaking device, for their own bodies that make them invisible to us mere mortal's?


Erno




posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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You're attempt at humor fails. good day, sir.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by ahmonrarh
i'd run off, catch the flu from a sick person.....wait a tick!!! i've got one better!!!!
i'd go to CVS or whatever pharmacy is handing out the flu shot(h1n1) make a Co2 powered Gatling gun and simply disease them into submission.......hope that'll deter them.



Ha, now you're talking. Flu is probably a bit drastic, any packaged food item off the supermarket shelf will probably do the trick and that way you not only kill them but you can preserve the body at the same time. It saves on the embalming costs.

So if we ever get invaded by hostile ET's everyone remember the plan- don't shoot them, invite them over for a Microwave TV Dinner with the family.

Ahh McCain, you've done it again!!!



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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Actually, if you people took your subject a little more seriously, and did a bit of research (which means reading a few books), then you'll know that in the past military jets HAVE fired on UFOs.

In 1976 an Iranian pilot, Parviz Jafari (now a retired General) attempted to fire an AIM-9 heat-seeking missile from his F4 phantom jet at a UFO near Tehran. The weapons radar was locked to the target, but all attempts to fire on the object resulted in nothing happening within the aircraft. Whenever the plane got near to the target and attempted to fire, all instrumentation and radio simultaneously failed, only functioning again when the pilot removed to a distance.

In 1980 Oscar Santa Maria Huertas (now a retired commandante) in the Peruvian air force flew his Sukhoi-22 jet close to an object that had incurred into the perimeter of the base. He fired on the object with a burst of 64 30mm cannon shells. Some shells deviated from the target, and others hit it, but with no without effect.

A simple Google search on either of these names will provide further detailed information on these (and other) occasions when military aircraft have fired on UFOs.

I would highly recommend everyone read Leslie Kean's latest book "UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials go on the record". It doesn't deal with flim-flam sightings - only those where trained observers witnessed the objects, and where secondary witnesses picked up the objects simultaneously on radar.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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Shooting down a UFO with our tech?
3 possible answers:


  • Wouldnt it be like cavemen throwing rocks at a tank?
  • Why would we want to shoot down our own craft?
  • Can you get a lock on a Chinese Lantern, and is it classed as 'Overkill'?



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 12:23 PM
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Why would we want to shoot down a UFO anyways? personally it makes no sense to shoot something unless it is posing a threat to someone or something. I can see if it is military airspace or in a unrestricted area then fine try to shoot it down.
But other than that you are trying to shoot something that first of all you dont even know what it is? It could be ET or it could be made here on earth from our own Government.
My opinion is dont shoot unless you first know what it is your shooting at!



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Don't shoot the Grey UFOs.
They are here to help us.
I wonder if they broadcast an IFF code?
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As far as the Roswell crash of July 1947, i think that was a mid-air collision during a severe thunderstorm.
- The Greys -
They were small scout class spacecraft with a crew complement of 4.
2 Pilots - 2 Engineers



posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by Spinster
Just throwing in my 2 cents on this thread.

In something called 'the battle of los angeles' which has become an iconic photo, which happened shortly after peal harbour so the US was on high alert, eye witnesses claim that the UFO that was photographed, drifted for a while after being shot my AA guns, and then crashed, this was said to be the reason why the military was so quickly to respond to the roswell incident.

If your a believer in bob lazer (i have to admit i am) he once documented he saw a peice of metal which had been hit by a gun of our making, he stated that if it was a peice of material of ET origin it would be totally unfeasible for us to just shoot it with one of our weapons, just to see if it would penetrate the armor, it would be like shooting the holy grail.

As previous mentioned, pilots since then who have achieved lock on with fighter aircraft have had there jets totally shut down electronically.

I am a believer in the 'ancient astronaut' theory that they have been here for many thousands of years, but they are now learning to be weary of our responses, much like a puppy thats just grown teeth.

Just throwing my lot in on the subject



Good point about Roswell. Civilians on the ground said the U.S. Army showed up and they knew
what they were looking at and appeared to be just following through on a contingency plan.
Then a red headed captain named Armstrong threatened all of them to shut up about this crash.
edit on 27-1-2011 by Eurisko2012 because: misspelled word that needed correcting



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
we don't even know if the aliens believe in God !

can you imagine what kind of beings these will be then and with all that technology !


And what, pray tell, does that have to do with anything at all? Are you thrown off if a Being from another planet doesn't believe in your God? Would this upset you friend?


are you serious man ! this is a very serious question...

haven't you ever read that book (Contact) by Carl Sagan ? there is the movie too but the book is much better.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by shooshtime
If ET's were smart enough to travel to Earth from wherever they came from, i'm sure they would be far more intelligent than we currently are and i'd think that our weapons would be useless against them.


I hear that Roswell was one we 'shot' down by accident with a strong radar.

But yeah, what we would consider a classic Alien(or balck ops anti grav) ship would have some type of EM field surrounding the craft as part of its normal functioning. This field would also make it very hard to take a good photo for the same reason lasers and other beam weapons would be useless, as the em filed could deflect or absorb such radiation (including radar, microwaves etc) In fact that is exactly how the new stealth tech works
. In effect, a type of cloaking is a a by product


BUT Resonance is the key... doesn't matter how advanced they are, resonance is the key to the universe. An opera singer can shatter glass, a 42.5 MPH wind can start an entire bridge resonating to the point it makes a wave till it breaks Huge steel girders twisting like rubber

Tacoma Bridge

Resonance can actually levitate objects and can control their motion

Acoustic Levitation

And Star Trek used resonant frequencies to get through the Borg shield


So yeah, you want to take one out, get a high power radar dish and beam signals at them till you match their space craft or shield's frequency

EVERYTHING in the universe has a resonant frequency. Tesla almost brought down a building doing that with his early scalar weapon research

OH BTW... yeah the HAARP network CAN do that

edit on 29-1-2011 by zorgon because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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In September of 1952 there was a sighting in Braxton County W.VA. It became known as the
Flatwoods Monster or the Braxton Monster. This event made national news and the witnesses
where interviewed on a TV show called WE THE PEOPLE. The boys interviewed where not much
older than me and I was glued to the tv because I live in Southwestern Pa. and Braxton County
was only a stones throw across the Mason-Dixon line as UFO's fly. This was my intro to UFO's.
Not having thought about it for years, I Googled Flatwoods Monster and found a web site on this
matter. There is a book by Frank C. Feschino, Jr. titled "SHOOT THEM DOWN" TheFlying Saucer
Air Wars Of 1952. I think you will find this read quite interesting. The site is www.flatwoodsmonster.com
This is only my second reply and I don't yet know how to do this link thing.



posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Check out Crash at Corona by Stanton Friedman.
The Bob Lazar site is temporarily down.



posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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In order to shoot down an alien starship fighter craft: You probably woud have to fight "FIRE WITH FIRE." You would have to capture a similar craft, commandeer it, learn how to use it's weaponry and hope God is your co-pilot.

Erno



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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Wow that must be the dumbest idea ever?Its like attacking a bear with bare hands,bear is not agressive but if you attack it you can get hurt pretty bad.



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by roguetechie
I just don;t get why people think we are SO far away technologically from anything else out there....

Maybe most people just DON'T GET that we are extremely close to a new series of technological breakthroughs that could ANY DAY NOW make physically travelling from one place to another obsolete. They could very well have also skipped some steps we have taken. Or be using their equivelant of modded LEAR JETS for their Interstellar X prize competition to get here (Note: for those that don't know one of the space x prize competitors is modifying Lear Jets to go into space)



Well the thing is most areas of technology are advancing exponentially, but the one that is lagging behind the most severely (IMO) is space propulsion. We're still pretty much using the same technology to get into space since the 60's - the so called rocket paradigm. If cheap space travel (and not to mention interstellar travel) has been perfected by an alien race, then we can also determine that their other technology (i.e. weaponry, computing, nanotechnology, etc.) is far in advance of ours. That's because advances in those areas are made exponentially, where as space propulsion requires either a paradigm shift or novel physics that takes a long time to discover or validate.



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

I hear that Roswell was one we 'shot' down by accident with a strong radar.

But yeah, what we would consider a classic Alien(or balck ops anti grav) ship would have some type of EM field surrounding the craft as part of its normal functioning. This field would also make it very hard to take a good photo for the same reason lasers and other beam weapons would be useless, as the em filed could deflect or absorb such radiation (including radar, microwaves etc) In fact that is exactly how the new stealth tech works
. In effect, a type of cloaking is a a by product


BUT Resonance is the key... doesn't matter how advanced they are, resonance is the key to the universe. An opera singer can shatter glass, a 42.5 MPH wind can start an entire bridge resonating to the point it makes a wave till it breaks Huge steel girders twisting like rubber

Tacoma Bridge

Resonance can actually levitate objects and can control their motion

Acoustic Levitation

And Star Trek used resonant frequencies to get through the Borg shield


So yeah, you want to take one out, get a high power radar dish and beam signals at them till you match their space craft or shield's frequency

EVERYTHING in the universe has a resonant frequency. Tesla almost brought down a building doing that with his early scalar weapon research

OH BTW... yeah the HAARP network CAN do that

edit on 29-1-2011 by zorgon because: (no reason given)


Zorgon,

If you're interested in using resonance for propulsion, may I suggest that you read Alan C. Holt's Field Resonance Propulsion concept that was presented to the 15th joint AIAA/SAE/ASME Propulsion conference in 1979.

Although the science has not been validated and lacks mathematical rigor, I found it to be quite a unique proposal in terms of interstellar propulsion.
edit on 2-2-2011 by GeeGee because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by Erno86
In order to shoot down an alien starship fighter craft: You probably woud have to fight "FIRE WITH FIRE." You would have to capture a similar craft, commandeer it, learn how to use it's weaponry and hope God is your co-pilot.


Well I am pretty sure the "alien starship fighter craft" are not buzzing around our skies... more likely scout ships


But hey, anyone taking one down, go easy on it.. we might be able to use it if its not to badly wreaked



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by GeeGee
If you're interested in using resonance for propulsion, may I suggest that you read Alan C. Holt's Field Resonance Propulsion concept that was presented to the 15th joint AIAA/SAE/ASME Propulsion conference in 1979.


Had that one... thanks
But you also need shields for that space craft... something NASA had since 1964


ACTIVE SHIELDING CONCEPTS FOR THE IONIZING RADIATION IN SPACE
Contract NASw-502 Final Report Rev. 31 Jan. 1964
Contractor: Space Sciences Laboratory
Missile and Space Division
GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY

ntrs.nasa.gov...
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posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by shooshtime
If ET's were smart enough to travel to Earth from wherever they came from, i'm sure they would be far more intelligent than we currently are and i'd think that our weapons would be useless against them.


I hear that Roswell was one we 'shot' down by accident with a strong radar.



That's what I heard also. Actually a narrow beam radar unit, using a nuclear power source.
Good ol' Albert... always came through in the clutch.



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 10:15 PM
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i personally think we lack the technology to shoot one down, im pretty sure we have no idea what other weapons and crafts they have.



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