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Why would she force him to pay out for 20 years based on her irresponsibility?
Originally posted by LDragonFire
Why would you force a woman to bear a child based on your irresponsibility?
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Why would she force him to pay out for 20 years based on her irresponsibility?
Originally posted by LDragonFire
Why would you force a woman to bear a child based on your irresponsibility?
Originally posted by LDragonFire
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Why would she force him to pay out for 20 years based on her irresponsibility?
Originally posted by LDragonFire
Why would you force a woman to bear a child based on your irresponsibility?
? Why did he get her pregnant?
I'm a man I have 3 kids. It's my duty being a Man to take care of my kids. This goes with being a human male and has happened since before history.
If you don't want to pay, don't get her pregnant.
Originally posted by LDragonFire
reply to post by RestingInPieces
Huh? Are you saying men force women to get abortions? Please explain what you mean?
reply to post by Solomons
before he commits he needs to understand that the woman will get the last say because it's her body, NOT his.
Way to run off just when your views are challenged. [/sarcasm]
Originally posted by LDragonFire
I said a little more than my 2 cents worth and this topic is a bit much for a Saturday night.
It's not my place to decide what is right or wrong. It's between them and there maker.
Cheers
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Yet as a guy, I would be forced to pay for her choice.
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Why would she force him to pay out for 20 years based on her irresponsibility?
If she keeps her legs closed, then you have no issue. This entire argument assumes consensual sex. Nobody mentioned rape. Rape is a crime and the criminal should obviously have no say in anything. On the other hand, are rapists forced to pay child support?
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Yet as a guy, I would be forced to pay for her choice.
When men can be raped and impregnated, get back to us.
When men can be knocked up and abandoned, get back to us.
When you get a uterus, get back to us.
If you men were so worried about whether or not the baby you created was going to be born and be a financial burden, you would be a little more careful about where you go sticking your thing. Keep it in your pants and this is not your issue.edit on 22-1-2011 by Sinnthia because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LDragonFire
Men have the choice to have sex or not, or to have protected sex or not, but before he commits he needs to understand that the woman will get the last say because it's her body, NOT his.
Their responsibility is equal. If the sex was consensual they have equal responsibility to the child and should have equal say in the disposition.
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Why would she force him to pay out for 20 years based on her irresponsibility?
Her irresponsibility? What exactly is her responsibility? Allowing his sperm to find her egg?
Women have and make the exact same choices. However, they have the magically derived "right" to murder an innocent or compel the male to submit to slavery for 20 years or so.
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by LDragonFire
Men have the choice to have sex or not, or to have protected sex or not, but before he commits he needs to understand that the woman will get the last say because it's her body, NOT his.
Maybe these anti-choice men who pretend to stand on their moral high ground can abstain from having sex until they fall in love and get married to a woman that would make a great mother to their children. Maybe the morals only show up after the woman gets pregnant?
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
If she keeps her legs closed, then you have no issue.
This entire argument assumes consensual sex. Nobody mentioned rape.
Rape is a crime and the criminal should obviously have no say in anything. On the other hand, are rapists forced to pay child support?
Actually I am fairly sure you are not following here. Nobody mentioned rape in the arguments prior to you bringing it up out of left field. This entire argument was based solely on consensual sex between a man and woman. My argument was that rights and responsibilities should be equal if you intend to allow this senseless murder of an innocent.
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
If she keeps her legs closed, then you have no issue.
I am not sure you are clear on the mechanics of sex at this poit.
This entire argument assumes consensual sex. Nobody mentioned rape.
I did. I mentioned rape. It had everything to do with my response. If you did not understand it, read it a few more times. But, the last time I checked, consentual sex involved more than just one woman.
Rape is a crime and the criminal should obviously have no say in anything. On the other hand, are rapists forced to pay child support?
Way to miss the point.
I am not sure you are following.
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Their responsibility is equal. If the sex was consensual they have equal responsibility to the child and should have equal say in the disposition.
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Why would she force him to pay out for 20 years based on her irresponsibility?
Her irresponsibility? What exactly is her responsibility? Allowing his sperm to find her egg?
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Women have and make the exact same choices. However, they have the magically derived "right" to murder an innocent or compel the male to submit to slavery for 20 years or so.