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What we might experience during the initial shift.

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posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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Evidence, please?

I hardly think that what you are saying is plausible when you present no evidence. For all we know you could have been under the influence, having a very vivid dream or making the whole thing up.

Just sayin'.




posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Thank you for sharing....I guess your path has been quite similar to mine you're also the first person I hear talk about the tube sucking you inside out...I only experienced that once during meditation, the way I saw it was almost like a black hole sucking me in and I came out on the other side as pure awareness, in what seemed to me like some sort of outer space maybe....I seemed to know everything about everything, starting from the smallest star in the sky to all levels of existence....I also felt that if I chose to remain there my body here on Earth would die so I chose to return to my body, with no memories of anything I had learnt 'on the other side', and haven't been able to experience that ever since, although at times I've sort of come close, right before falling asleep at night...I'm really curious on what methods you practice, maybe it'll give me some better ideas as well...

as for everything else, I guess all we can do is wait and see and hope to be ready enough for what will be thrown at us
edit on 22-1-2011 by starloveiai because: correction of language



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Does this go for people who don't meditate and probably never will? Curious on that cause even when I black out I try to fight it off and come through to the other side of it.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by OneLife
That hit home with I. I haven't experienced that (at least not in the physical realm, but I've been learning a lot soul wise as I sleep so it could be there and just not remembering it). Any tips on how to get into that state through meditation? I've learnt lots but haven't been able to shatter my ego.. It's what's blocking me. Hard to explain but I know this but also don't know. I know this soul wise but cannot incorporate this into physical life for some reason.


I think meditation is the best way to go. I meditate one or two hours everyday. In normal wake state, I try to stay aware of my thought process to make sure I'm not building up false constructs. For me, it required withdrawal from society for a few years. I'm pretty much Obi-wan Kanobi.
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posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by starloveiai
Thank you for sharing....I guess your path has been quite similar to mine you're also the first person I hear talk about the tube sucking you inside out...I only experienced that once during meditation, the way I saw it was almost like a black hole sucking me in and I came out on the other side as pure awareness, in what seemed to me like some sort of outer space maybe....I seemed to know everything about everything, starting from the smallest star in the sky to all levels of existence....I also felt that if I chose to remain there my body here on Earth would die so I chose to return to my body, with no memories of anything I had learnt 'on the other side', and haven't been able to experience that ever since, although at times I've sort of come close, right before falling asleep at night...I'm really curious on what methods you practice, maybe it'll give me some better ideas as well...

as for everything else, I guess all we can do is wait and see and hope to be ready enough for what will be thrown at us
edit on 22-1-2011 by starloveiai because: correction of language



No problem.
). Yes, that is similar to my experiences as well. I meditate for couple of hours a day; need to. My mind is always trying to figure something out or create belief systems, so I need to release it and calm back down. I can put myself in almost a coma state at will, spending, what seems like, hours within the 4th sometimes days.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by curious7
Does this go for people who don't meditate and probably never will? Curious on that cause even when I black out I try to fight it off and come through to the other side of it.



I think meditation can make it easier to experience. It can be a very harsh shock to be dumped into the void with a panicking mind trying to hold on and comprehend at same time. Meditation gets you accustomed to the void and allows you to learn how to calm your mind when MAGIC appears before you.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by daryllyn
Evidence, please?

I hardly think that what you are saying is plausible when you present no evidence. For all we know you could have been under the influence, having a very vivid dream or making the whole thing up.

Just sayin'.


No evidence, sorry. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to prove it. Science is slowly starting to put some of the puzzle together, but until then, all I have to give is my thought. I know what i experienced, and I never doubt my visions and my intuition always serves me well. Besides, my spirit guide is the ultimate bad @&$.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 06:30 PM
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Interesting! In the event something like this ever happens, and I not saying it won't (although I don't think it will be in our lifetimes), I don't think it will be quite so "sinister" - sounding.

For one thing, the human brain is equipped with hormones and chemicals to protect us during times of intense trauma. (See NDE's). If you have a spirit guide, then so does everyone else, and each guide would go to "their person", to explain what is happening, and this would reduce fear of the unknown.

I like to think everybody will find it astonishing, pleasurable, and ALL will be giggling with delight and wonder.




posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Interesting! In the event something like this ever happens, and I not saying it won't (although I don't think it will be in our lifetimes), I don't think it will be quite so "sinister" - sounding.

For one thing, the human brain is equipped with hormones and chemicals to protect us during times of intense trauma. (See NDE's). If you have a spirit guide, then so does everyone else, and each guide would go to "their person", to explain what is happening, and this would reduce fear of the unknown.

I like to think everybody will find it astonishing, pleasurable, and ALL will be giggling with delight and wonder.




I like your style! Perhaps it will be a party after all......perhaps not. Maybe this will be my experience alone. Time will indeed tell



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 07:03 PM
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A couple of things to ponder. The original post is good, but a bit incomplete.

This has happened already, in smaller increments. Through each shift we have gone through over the last three years, many folks have quit out - died and had their body disposed of. However, many more have vacated the body and left beyond a kind of placeholder. Has anyone noticed the plethora of brain dead beings walking about, folks who can't do anything but repeat patterns they have learned from the past or others? Notice those who have lost the ability of self reflection? The accommodation was made to not have bodies dropping like flies, but to keep the essence going in order to keep some normalcy. This process of zombie fill-ins will continue to nearly the end.

As for the actual shift itself. There are several things to observe. Those working on themselves will truly enjoy the process as it evolves, and it will evolve. There is unlikely to be a light switch moment for those working with the process. The light switch moment will be for those who have not quit-out and have not really done the work to understand themselves. Death is a light switch moment for those who see it: alive one moment and dead the next. But this isn't how it happens, people are "gone" about a week before the body falls, so the process is actually rather simple. There is no reason to believe the death process will be voided by the shift, if it is, simply go the same way billions have gone before - it is rather simple and while you might not get the full effect of the shift, the shift is happening on all octaves connected to the earth plane so there will be something to see there too.

The shift comes in stages, so at some point before the final blow, folks will be feeling it - many are feeling it now as we have almost passed the final barrier to get to the next level. Once the feeling starts, it is simply a matter of cultivating it and going with the flow, rather than resisting it and freaking out. Your consciousness at the deepest levels doesn't hate you, it doesn't want you to be tortured simply because you have three kids and can't spend 6 hours a day meditating to experience the shift - there is some understanding of our lives here. There is no "get it or die" process here, if there were NO ONE would come to the earth plane as the majority are simply caught in the slave reality and few actually understand the cosmic event. This is a unique event, one not seen in ages, so all manner of folks are here to see it - not only evolved to the point of perfection folks.

March will be a time when things will be a bit more clear for many. November is the time the race actually starts and people will be in action, chaos will be the order of the day more or less. I suggests simply understanding that "shift happens," you are not the things you do, all is cool in the end, and you have a desire to be in the event, be part of the event, experience the event to its fullest and move along to see what happens. Remind yourself, this is all an illusion, nothing is as it seems, when that goes away it isn't hell you'll be seeing but opportunity - limitless opportunity. Spend some time in the sun, as much as you can, the sun is guiding the event from out pov, tuning into it will help you greatly (ever wonder why the sun was demonized in the 70's?).

If you find yourself out of the body, lost and if all else fails, head for your Soul self, you'll know what to do when you see it.

If you need "proof" or "a link" to understand this it is not for you yet. There is no such thing, there will be no link, no proof via The Scientific Method - it was designed to purposefully hide what is happening from those who choose to see "scientific proof as religion." The reason this was installed was to get people out of intuitive self and totally reliant on the 5 senses, even more, the 5 senses that could be recreated with machines. The process simply wiped out the population's ability to access deeper levels of themselves and therefor the deeper information contained within - the scientific method of proof is both a fraud and a trap.



posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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What a great post, thanks

I am trying to make sense of it all and work on myself and have many moments of doubt, a well written, down to earth post like this rather than the new age, mystical, cryptic posts some of our 'enlightened(?)' friends post is really refreshing

Thanks cranky old man



posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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I really enjoyed your posts in the thread.

When you mentioned the time difference in the 3rd dimension vs the astral realms, it made me think a part from the movie Inception. If you haven't seen it, I'd highly recommend it. Anyway, there's a part where Leonardo DiCaprio goes into this deep dream state called 'limbo'. Basically, it's purely unconscious and time loses it's meaning. You can be down there 50 years and only have several hours pass in the 'real world'.

It kind of reminds me of that...



posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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Sounds like your refrigerator is broken and all of you experience a nonlethal food poisoning incident. Lucky!



posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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"My advice for each and everyone of you is this. Settle your affairs while you still can. Clear your conscience, and open your heart energy center (feels like a second heartbeat). Think nothing but positive thought REGARDLESS of circumstance and learn to love your life and everything/everyone in it."

"Forget about jobs and economy, ALL OF IT , will be nonexistent or irrelevant to the approaching times."

To the OP, I love my family a lot; I have concern for other people who are less fortunate than me; I strive for happiness and positivity every single day of my life. BUT I dont do astral, do not want to, and not interested. At the moment, I cannot forget about what you are asking because of obvious reason; we all have to eat and pay our bills...until the time you are talking about come..these are all very very relevant to us. Unless you can feed our families and pay our bills, please stop asking us not to.

So will I survive the intial shift ??



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 12:10 AM
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Op - you're dead on.
I feel exactly the same. I have been meditating for 2-3 hours a day.
Tried Ayahusca, astral, OBE, Dr Goldberg 5th dimension, the whole lot. Right now working on The Robert Monroe hemisync and Maj Ed dames Remote Viewing.

Your information "resonates" well with me.

To my friends on ATS, this is the time to leave the logic behind for a while, move away from the head to your heart that is where you will find the answers.

For many this may not make sense. It all depends on your own path.

peace.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by stereologist
Sounds like your refrigerator is broken and all of you experience a nonlethal food poisoning incident. Lucky!


shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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Fantastic post!
I am just about in total agreement with what you have said.I also believe the spiritual and paranormal/ufo activity is beyond what can be tested and reproduced in a lab.it just does not work that way nor do I think it is meant to be.
As long as they keep searching and theorizing in the material-physical world mindset the longer the majority of the "unknown" will remain hidden.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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It is quite laughable that there are people asking for proof let alone links to something as spiritual as this. Its like asking for proof of God


Its a personal thing you need to work at yourself. Its not something you can just do. I dislike this left brained attitude of if there is no proof then it doesnt exist. It has noting to do with anything material so how can proof be collected? If any of you can come up with a physical way we can prove this to you then we will.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by starloveiai
Thank you for sharing....I guess your path has been quite similar to mine you're also the first person I hear talk about the tube sucking you inside out...I only experienced that once during meditation, the way I saw it was almost like a black hole sucking me in and I came out on the other side as pure awareness, in what seemed to me like some sort of outer space maybe....I seemed to know everything about everything, starting from the smallest star in the sky to all levels of existence....I also felt that if I chose to remain there my body here on Earth would die so I chose to return to my body, with no memories of anything I had learnt 'on the other side', and haven't been able to experience that ever since, although at times I've sort of come close, right before falling asleep at night...I'm really curious on what methods you practice, maybe it'll give me some better ideas as well...

as for everything else, I guess all we can do is wait and see and hope to be ready enough for what will be thrown at us
edit on 22-1-2011 by starloveiai because: correction of language

i've had the same type of experience, only on lsd. really interesting stuff going on.

i would like to ask if other people have been in this... ''state of mind''
the feeling is like being able to listen to several conversations at the same time, while keeping the trail of thought of everybody speaking. It's like being the concentration of concentration



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 06:00 AM
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I often glimpse this state, it is usually enough to scare me, its as if the walls come alive.



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