‘You’re going to have to shoot them in the head,’ Beck said of Democratic leaders

Originally posted by whaaa
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Discussing Democratic leaders during a June broadcast for the Republican Fox News Channel, conspiracy host Glenn Beck told his followers they would have to "shoot them in the head" in order to bring an end to an alleged "communist" agenda.




You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you."

Ss has Glen Beck gone *SNIP* crazy? I know he said this back in June. I wonder if he himself has bought a 9mm to go hunting Democratic leader that were elected. If you voted for a Democrat; does that mean you are also fair game?

Beck has some listeners/viewers that are as goofy as he is and just might be influenced by his hateful rhetoric.

They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

Most of the talk of "revolution" I hear comes from the right wing conservatives. I wonder how many advertisers will bail on beck this time?

Or is Beck secretly working for the Feds because he knows this type of talk will eventually lead to gun restrictions.

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Your right! He said it in June. That was 7-8 months ago. Why are you bringing it up now?

Originally posted by SaturnFX
I wonder what defines a "radical leftist".

Many called Obama a radical leftist...which is news to the actual left...considering O is a centerist.

I don't think a paid commentator on main stream media should be suggesting anyone should be shooting anyone in the head...call me a hippy, but I think the message is stupid and dangerous (especially when taken out of context).

and guess what...people tend to take things out of context alot...consider this thread for example.

Hey Saturnx!

Did you mean centrist? O will never be a centrist.

Beck is beyond silly if he thinks the US is turning into a communist nation...the exact opposite is happening. The government isn't in control, BIG BUSINESS is in control and using politicians as puppets.

But who cares about reality if you can just as well use fear mongering tactics to control your blind followers, right?

Originally posted by MrXYZ
Beck is beyond silly if he thinks the US is turning into a communist nation...the exact opposite is happening. The government isn't in control, BIG BUSINESS is in control and using politicians as puppets.

But who cares about reality if you can just as well use fear mongering tactics to control your blind followers, right?

While he may indeed have his terms for the boogieman a little off the mark his assessment is basically correct in that we are becoming a totalitarian nation; regardless of what you label it (left, right or in between) that is bad.

A totalitarian nation run by corporate interests is just as if not more scary than a true communist regime.

reply to post by Golf66


But the real question is, why does he continue to misuse the words "communism" and "socialism" so often?

I tell you why!! Because a lot of his viewers, who according to statistics are mostly older generations, still remember the old "communist threat" and automatically will accept anything as being bad if it's linked to communism. That's why he comes up with the wackiest theories to link random stuff to communism. He's controlling his audience with a whole bunch of nonsense.

Just look at his ridiculous crusade against Soros...99% of his attacks aren't based on evidence, but rather his arguable crazy mind. When you watch his show, and if you had a proper history class and knowledge of politics/economics, you realize that he's twisting facts and misrepresenting stuff all the time. His show isn't factual at all, it's fiction...at least the large majority of it.

reply to post by MrXYZ


Could you explain (without a youtube video) or source from
a left wing website, how he twist history facts?

Off the top of your head would be the best.

Since you must watch beck all the time since you know so much
about his show.

Strawman argument of the year award... (He twist history facts around just because I say so)
(AND if you don't believe he is twisting facts around you never had a proper history class)

Your attempting to derail the thread with off-topic rants about how much you dislike Beck.
Which is obvious to anyone with a brain.

Back on topic.
Where did Beck say here *shoot democrats in the head*?

reply to post by hillynilly


What I said isn't derailing the thread as in the very video we're all discussing he's claiming the US is turning into a communist nation.

You asked for a lie...well...there you have one, the US isn't turning into a communist nation, far from it in fact

And you want me to show you where he lied in his show without linking you to actual clips? That would be just making stuff up, and would be Beck's expertise, sorry, I prefer facts. It's 2am over here, but when I get up tomorrow morning you can look forward to a VERY long posts with dozens of quotes where he lied. Rejoice

One last lie by Beck: "10% of Muslims are terrorists."

That would make over 150 million people terrorist...which should make it abundantly clear why this figure is beyond laughable

reply to post by MrXYZ


The topic on hand is ‘You’re going to have to shoot them in the head,’ Beck said of Democratic leaders

Which he did not say, can you show us where he says *your going to have to shoot them democrats in the head*?

Just for fun, since we DO know for a fact that THERE ARE muslim terrorist..

What percentage of muslims ARE terrorist??

Just for fun.
Stalin was socialist, he oppressed the people as a dictator.
Hitler was communist, he oppressed the people as a dictator.
Mao was a communist, he oppressed the people as a dictator.
Catro IS A socialist, he oppresses the people as a dictator.

I think anyone can see the similarities....

(your thread derail could go on forever, but I wont let you do it any longer)

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Golf66

 

But the real question is, why does he continue to misuse the words "communism" and "socialism" so often?

I think we are in agreement; hate to qoute myself but I said this earleir:

Originally posted by Golf66

What I'm saying is that Glenn is not a very objective guy, he has an agenda to advance and he has personal bias as well; couple this with corporate sponsors who have agendas of their own along with the fact that he is an entertainer who works for a cooperation who has to make a profit and you have a recipe for some bull crap.

What he says should be taken with a grain of salt and put through the filter of:

"Hey, I wonder if he is manipulating the facts here somehow to drive me to reach the same conclusion and therefore possibly gain my support or endorsement.

Then apply the same standard to say Media Matters, MSNBC or anyone in the MSM basically and one can see they are basically a left wing hit squad with, wait for it… an agenda with corporate sponsors who also have a agenda and rich dudes (Soros) with scary agendas of their own.

So the picture they paint of any subject, person, or political party should be taken with a grain of salt and put through the filter of:

"Hey, I wonder if they are manipulating the facts here somehow to drive me to reach the same conclusion and therefore possibly gain my support or endorsement.

He's a pot stirring entertainer no differnent than any of the others on either side.

Originally posted by antonia
Yea, pretty much everyone who listens to Beck questions nothing of what he says. This is similar to what followers of other personalties do. Your first sentence was so predictable as to be laughable. I knew you'd say it. The followers of the right-wing always shoot from the hip with that crap. I don't care about your patriotism. It won't feed my family, it won't mend wounds my child may get when you fools finally wig out and start shooting each other. I am an american by chance of birth. That is not an accomplishment

Dude (or dudette) -- can I send you flowers or a bottle of Bourbon?

The right wing pays its way to dumb down a good portion of the population so they can rape them in every which way afterwards. You know this and so do I. The dumb just ignore that.

Originally posted by hillynilly
Back on topic.
Where did Beck say here *shoot democrats in the head*?

edit on 23-1-2011 by hillynilly because: (no reason given)

He never did... The transcript below is from that show. It is also only 1 block of the 4 block total of the show. If people bother to read the entire show transcript, from block 1 through block 4, it makes sense as to what he is talking about.

Fox News - Beck - Full transcript of show - Block 2

BECK: Yes, it has. It has. This is an ominous statement coming from a revolutionary. Please go to GlennBeck.com and look up "STORM: Reclaiming Revolution." This is his organization. He is in this. From a revolutionary.

I'm sorry but when did the Obama administration not be progressive? Excuse me? They were normal? We have seen progressives. We haven't seen the actual spooky progressives yet. I think you are about to. Something has changed this week. He's right.

But what the politicians don't understand, the ones who have co-opted these revolutionaries and brought them in the process, is they are dangerous. Why? Why? Well, because a lot of them have called for violent revolution in the past and they never distanced themselves from it.

You cannot co-opt and lie to people who believe in something. Why is Ahmadinejad dangerous? Well, because he says he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth, OK? The press and the politicians — "Oh, he's just saying that."

Why do they say that? Because nobody in the press and nobody in Washington actually believes a damn thing, except their own image. That's it. This man is a twelver. Look it up. Do you know what it is? It's a revolutionary so dangerous that the Ayatollah Khomeini banned twelvers.

OK. Here's the Ayatollah Khomeini, who is a revolutionary — he says stay away from these guys. They're spooky. He didn't co-opt them because he understood they believed in the 12th Imam coming back, and the way to bring the 12th Imam back is wash the world in blood.

There are politicians like the Ayatollah Khomeini who will do revolution for power. And then there are people like this who are mad men. I never thought I'd say we better learn something from the Ayatollah Khomeini, but here it is.

The media and the politician have all of this wrong. In every single walk of life — you want to know why TV doesn't reflect you? You want to know why Washington doesn't reflect you? Because they don't understand, from the radical revolutionaries to the Islamic extremists — and yes, DOJ, they do exist — to the Tea Party movements.

Just because you in Washington and you who are so out of touch with life in the media, just because you don't believe in anything doesn't mean nobody else does. We do. You know why you're confused by this show? It's because I believe in something. You don't.

Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.

I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends.

You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

They are dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them — they're revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.

Here is my advice when you're dealing with people who believe in something that strongly — you take them seriously. You listen to their words and you believe that they will follow up with what they say.

Didn't we learn that lesson from Usama bin Laden? I heard his warning in 1998. I said on the air at the time, listen to him. We didn't listen. We didn't listen to the revolutionaries in Germany, the revolutionaries in Russia or Venezuela or Cuba — no, no, no. They all have one thing in common. They have all called for revolution.

They want to overthrow our entire system of government, and their words say it. Why won't you believe it?

As you will learn on "Founding Fridays(sic)," this Friday, we're talking about James Madison. Here is what you will learn. The revolution of 1776 was a picnic compared to what the revolutionaries of today would like to do. It's not a lot of fun. Usually, millions of people die.

But I'm glad to see our politicians will co-opt those people so they can have power. Fundamental transformation. It's what America is going through right now. And the progressives, the Marxist revolutionary progressives are still not happy. I'm going to show you the beginning of that civil war inside the Democratic Party, next.

Originally posted by hillynilly


Just for fun.
Stalin was socialist, he oppressed the people as a dictator.
Hitler was communist, he oppressed the people as a dictator.
Mao was a communist, he oppressed the people as a dictator.
Catro IS A socialist, he oppresses the people as a dictator.

Mhhhhh, Hitler wasn't a communist...even if Beck tries to link him to communism so people are even more afraid. And what does that have to do with anything? The US is clearly not turning into a communist/socialist country, so what's the point you're trying to make??

reply to post by MrXYZ


That your derailing the thread..

Any further of it the mods will be reported..

STAY ON TOPIC!

Originally posted by hillynilly
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

That your derailing the thread..

Any further of it the mods will be reported..

STAY ON TOPIC!

This IS on topic!! Beck's entire premise for saying they should be shot in the head is that he calls those people COMMUNISTS. But the people in power aren't COMMUNISTS! So this is VERY relevant for the discussion...

He clearly said shoot the communists in the head...when in reality, there's no communists. He's linking random people to communism to make sure his viewers hate those people.

So please, report me...pretty sure the mods will agree that this is on topic. If the topic is whether or not he said to shoot people in the head, then well, the topic should be over because he clearly said that. But he said it against communists...the problem is, Beck links everyone and his dog to communism which is a VERY relevant fact.

And lastly, how can you claim I'm off topic after I replied to one of YOUR posts by correcting the flaws in your post? Got problems dealing with criticism?

Beck's "thinking": Gifford voted in favor of HC > evil communist > shoot her in the head

THAT's what he's doing...he's linking every single person not on the right to socialism/communism and then asking for violence. And guess what, sometimes nutjobs take him up on it and kill people like Tiller or Gifford because they blindly believe whatever that lunatic says! So yeah, this IS relevant to the discussion.

reply to post by MrXYZ


I wouldn't sweat it my friend.
Hillynilly is a noobie to ATS...

Eventually people learn that one must have a thick skin to participate in discussions here at our home away from home, and unless personal insults are being thrown around then no reason exists to call in the Mods.
Besides...
Beck was being well.... Beck. He was rousting the hornet's nest in order to get people worked up about absolutely nothing.
His rhetoric is the same as it always has been.

COMPLETELY OVER THE TOP.

He is a pawn and he is being used to marginalize people of a certain belief. People who are in the public eye that are as polarizing as Beck have an agenda. His agenda is to make people who believe in "conspiracies" look really bad.
And he is doing a fine job I might add.

This thread exemplifies those who buy into his drivel.

reply to post by Josephus23


I'm just amazed that people don't realize what Beck says isn't fact, they blindly believe.

I mean, the "evidence" he brings forward is about like this:

1) Hitler was bad.
2) Hitler spoke German.
3) Obama had a German class in high school.
4) Obama is just like Hitler

Replace "Hitler" with whatever dictator or evil person you want, and replace "Obama" with Soros or whoever else pisses Beck off

In this case, he's calling democrats "communists" without having the slightest bit of evidence to back it up...and then ask for those "communists" to be shot in the head. Am I the only one who thinks this is beyond appalling?

reply to post by MrXYZ


Makes no difference if you're right, left, progressive, conservative, etc., etc.. This country, and the rest of the world, are controlled by the global multinational corporate and business 'elite'. They run the show. The money talks, while everything else walks! People love money, and it really is the root of all evil. The end.

reply to post by LanMan54


And politics are like gladiator games to entertain the common people...and the large dumb majority falls for it every single time. While they discuss which party's in power, the corporations laugh their asses off as they pay all of them anyway

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by galadofwarthethird

 

Uhm, ok. You've missed the point behind what he is talking about.

Listen I know you have a point, but you do need to realize that saying something and doing something are two whole different world's. This beck and his writers will tell you whatever you want to hear, and will give you all and any points on whatever is fashionable in politics today, and he will do it all day long. But at the end of the day it's just playing to the crowd. "Give them bread and circuses" he is of the circus verity.

If your looking for somebody to give you the "whats up" look somewhere else, Beck ain't saying anything new or all that important.

reply to post by galadofwarthethird


Lol.. my point has been, if you go back and read here as well as other threads that touch on the same topic is in the end, the only person who can be held responsible for actions, is the person who takes the action. Beck is not media, but opinion programming, just as olberman, maddow and hannity, and people know this.

To take what Beck is talking about, take it out of context, and then try to assign blame to beck for actions taken by another person is as ludacris. It would be no different than taking what Obama said before the midterms out of context and shooting Republicans because Obama called them the enemy.

Its a stupid argument plain and simple. Unfortunately we can see it on a daily basis. People commit a crime, yet the blame falls on law enforcement. A guy goes mental and shoots a representative, and its the medias fault. A person shoots a cop, and its the suspects parents fault for not giving him enough hugs growing up.

Do we have problems in this country? Absolutely.

The problem is the real problems are being placed on the back burner while we all try to find someone to blame. Even then, if we find someone to blame, it still does not fix the problem.

And that is the problem....