Originally posted by factfinder38
Most of you have no clue what you are talking about. First of all the majority of the triibes involved agreed to this and it is a minority that is
represented by the artical. History is history and you better read up on it before you spout about the bad white men of the world. Before we came here
the indians did the same thing as we did to other tribes. Kill all of the men capture the women and breed out the genes of that tribe it is fact it is
history and it is survival of the fittest. Was it horrable for anyone to do this,Yes but that is the way the world has been. Do we also give back the
southern U.S to Mexico are they not the indigenous people? Do you not comprehend that if your power company wants to put a pole in the middle of your
house you are moving no matter what race you are. Its called Emminate Domain or the owners deciding who gets what.
Wrong, wrong, wrong!
Get your story straight. First of all, my first link refers to the Shoshone Nation.
"Because acceptance of the award would create the perception that any claims to their land have been relinquished, the majority of Western Shoshone
governments have steadfastly refused the money. Despite the July 7 signing, several Western Shoshone tribes and tribal members said they will continue
to rely on the Ruby Valley Treaty to press their land claims.
This has never been easy for them. Another sticking point in the process of seizure has been a court ruling that the tribe could not litigate the
award once its trustee, the Interior Department, accepted receipt of it.
Although tribal sovereignty is not vested in individuals but in tribes, Congress has relied on individual votes, cast in rather stage-managed
proceedings, to determine that a "majority" of Western Shoshone tribal members favor distribution of funds and the resulting extinction of their
land claims. Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., and his Republican ally in the House of Representatives, fellow Nevadan James Gibbons, persuaded their
colleagues to pass the embattled bill mainly on the strength of vote tallies in proceedings that had no official sanctioning process across all the
Western Shoshone tribes, but concentrated on Nevada tribes.
The Ruby Valley Treaty lands are rich in resources, including gold, water and geothermal energy. Multinational mining companies are standing by to
operate within the Ruby Valley lands through "privatization" bills brought forward by Gibbons. Gibbons and Reid are among Congress’ leading
recipients of mining company contributions."
Second, where on Earth did you get the idea that The Nations were in some constant state of war? That one Nation would conquer another and supplant
the vanquished? This is simply not true. Though there are certainly some examples of aggressive acts between overlapping Nations, aggression was
never the rule, rather the exception. Show me your alleged "facts." Since it is YOU who has asserted this, the onus is apon YOU to defend your
Eminent Domain is an imperialist construct. You may argue that the Governed have accepted this by Tacit Concent, but the Nations have vehemently and
repeatedly denied such concent. How can one Government imply Eminent Domain over another sovereign Government? They cannot.
Survival of the fittest? Since when has this been a moral argument? Have we not evolved beyond this point? Because one person or one Nation is
bigger, stronger, better armed; do they have some Natural Right to Lord over the smaller, weaker, unarmed? This is the very reason for the
institution of Law. That the Government of The U.S. has failed to consistently act in accord with Law is a hypocrisy of incredible magnitude, and the
main point of this whole thread!
Please! Think with your concience!