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Zecharia Sitchin was the only one who got it right and so called scholars are so jealous ...

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posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 12:20 AM
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Ive never heard so much crap talked about a guy that has done his homework so much that others cant accept he knew more........and the fact that people take time out just to slam his work is pathetic and weird,,,,ummm there are people in the world right now like the picketing church freaks but no one cares,,nah im just gonna sit home and write about how i hate this guy who wrote his theories about the sumerian culture,,this site probably wouldnt exist if it werent for him....get real.......they were theories in a book amongst millions of other books...



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 12:20 AM
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i cant wait to see the first idiotic know it all reply


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posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 12:21 AM
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Hmmm, your still not banned yet?

Ah well, at least the school holidays are over soon



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 12:28 AM
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Why did you create this thread? I love Sitchin. I'm a scholar.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 12:31 AM
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Not sure if you are trolling or not but I believe skepticism goes alot further than blind faith



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 12:34 AM
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That man opened my eyes and I will not look back. He spent his whole life gathering intel on the unknown to share with us all. Respect



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 12:35 AM
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and....OP is finally banned. Good. There was no need for his misogynistic comments in that other thread



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 12:41 AM
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Just a friendly reminder that....

Zecharia Sitchin


We regret to inform you that Zecharia Sitchin passed away on the morning of October 9th 2010.

A small, private family funeral was held the next day. The family asks that you respect its privacy during this difficult time and refrain from contacting family members directly. Instead, to offer tributes to Mr. Sitchin or to contact those handling his affairs, please email [email protected] or send a letter to P.O. Box 577, New York, NY 10185.

We appreciate the support that you have given over the years.


Also, in my opinion, no scholar that I know of was able to translate all the Egyptian hieroglyphic writing and numbering, as well as the Sumerian language better than Zecharia. Moreover, he took the time to explain his work in "baby language" with pictures so that anyone not knowing anything about the whole subject, was able to grasp the concepts more easily...unlike some scholars who used a bunch of jargon no one understood...because it took an MBA in academics to define each word.

He also was an author of many books. To his credit, he put more time and effort into his research and was able to work with governments to gain copious amounts of knowledge, even though he acknowledged some things he witnessed were to be kept silent from the public.

That's my opinion, and I stand by it

edit on 22-1-2011 by Skywatcher2011 because: added sentence and edited grammar



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 12:44 AM
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I think Sitchin has a whole lot to offer.

But dont feel bad. Many would call a mothership like in the new series V floating over downtown Chicago a balloon, chinese lantern or cgi. Probably even after they had shuttle rides up to the ship for tours on board. So consider the source when people start ragging on Sitchin

They call not having skepticism as having blind faith. Tell someone you dont believe in any of the religions, that ETs used these religions to enslave mankind and they assume you dont believe in God.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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What do you think of this website? Does it change your opinion on his works?
Sitchin is wrong!



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 01:01 AM
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The thing with Sitchin is that nobody can really, truly, prove him wrong at this point. People are jealous still and looking for attention at this point I assume is the reason for all the discrediting attempts and slander. He is the only one to really spend as much time on the subject as he did and really understand what was being said in the tablets stories.

The real truth whether the haters like it or not is that anyone claiming him to be false has LESS knowledge on the subject than he did. That is the REAL true fact. They are bashing a man, and trying to tell you about something when he knew in mostly all cases infinitely more than said haters.

Now people can say he misinterpreted and whatever else they want but the problem is that isn't a fact it is an opinion. So lets be honest here if we want to start bashing Sitchin. I for one love his books and find them to be a wealth of knowledge. Not everything in every great book is true. Books have exaggerations just like everything else in life, especially stories.

Take his work for what it is...an amazing start to understanding the truth. Research what you will but you will not find anything similar to Sitchin's work at this time.
edit on 22-1-2011 by Smell The Roses because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 01:03 AM
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At least you flagged yourself and got one. That's all you have to say ? Some of us here are familer with Sitchens work. No direspect. What's your point?



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 01:04 AM
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DIS respect.
Second line.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 01:14 AM
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I am currently in the middle of reading sitchins books. They are very fascinating, and very plausible. However, it is like any religion, it all comes down to what you want to believe. I personally believe sitchin was onto something. I believe his theories have merit, and I believe that he was right in many ways.

Sitchin seems to be the only person, and the only sources of significant information about sumerians civilization. I would really like to read more about sumeria, but I cannot find information about it.

But the fact that sitchin believes extraterrestials came here in the past, and put humans here, is a very credible belief. Because there are too many unexplained things in the world, that only make sense when sitchin puts it all together. I wish he wasn't dead, because it would be really nice to have him keep up the good work.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 01:16 AM
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About Dr. Michael S. Heiser

Mike Heiser earned an M.A. (1998) and Ph.D. (2004) in Hebrew Bible and Ancient Semitic Languages from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

His dissertation was entitled, "The Divine Council in Late Canonical and Non-Canonical Second Temple Jewish Literature" (English translation: the dissertation dealt with the presence of a pantheon in the Hebrew Bible and the binitarian nature of ancient Israelite religion and Judaism, a backdrop for the the belief in the deity of Christ in the New Testament).

Before going to the UW-Madison, Mike also earned an M.A. in Ancient History from the University of Pennsylvania (1992; major fields, Ancient Syria-Palestine and Egyptology). Mike can do translation work in roughly a dozen ancient languages, among them Biblical Hebrew, Biblical Greek, Aramaic, Syriac, Egyptian hieroglyphs, Phoenician, Moabite, and Ugaritic cuneiform. He has also studied Akkadian and Sumerian independently.

Mike is probably best known to those interested in the ancient astronaut subject through his many appearances on Coast to Coast AM.


www.skepdic.com...


Sitchin was born in Russia, was raised in Palestine, and graduated from the University of London with a degree in economic history. He worked for years as a journalist and editor in Israel before settling in New York.

Sitchin promotes himself as a Biblical scholar and master of ancient languages, but his real mastery was in making up his own translations of Biblical texts to support his readings of Sumerian and Akkadian writings.

His most charming quality seems to be his vivid imagination and complete disregard for established facts and methods of inquiry, traits that are apparently very attractive to some people.


Okay, so granted that the University of Wisonsin is ranked higher than the University of London according to...2011 World University Ranking...and granted that Dr. Heiser did graduate with an MA with a focus on biblical literature and ancient history, what separated Sitchin from other scholars was his out-of-the-box thinking on ancient economic history. Scientists like to prove things with facts, and so they build their research on what other people/scholars have found.

That said, if it weren't for Sitchin's imagination and vision about how ancient civilizations populated the planet Earth as well as ideas about who the "gods" on this planet really were, then globalization would have came down to "group think" and no other theories and ideas would have been created.

I do give credit to Heiser for his research, and I think he has some pretty good arguments against Sitchin's work. Any scholar would be happy to argue against other scholars, otherwise they wouldn't have a job in research!

Every research subject has good points and bad points, but facts are facts, but imagination can create new facts.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 01:19 AM
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The thing is, people talk about his work as being hokey and false. WHY WOULD HE DO THAT? This guy was an authority on ancient civilizations. If this stuff was false, why would he destroy his career like that? There would be no gain to lie about this sort of stuff. Tons of ancient civilizations talk about sky gods. Chinese mythology notes people riding shining air crafts when air crafts were things of dreams. The first Chinese emperor was said to have "returned to the heavens on his shining dragon". The earliest definition of Dragon in chinese was a shining round aircraft.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 02:28 AM
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I have heard people trying to debunk his work, but after you said he actually gives you more or less a tutorial of what he has done, Im gonna have to get hold of some of the books and get stuck into them.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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Despite the troll-nature of the OP (thankfully banned - my first thought was that he was an agent provocateur), I'm glad to have stumbled across this thread. It's nice to see I'm not alone in giving credit where credit's due with regard to Sitchin.

Anyone who comes along and claims that they can debunk his work will only be able to 'do so' by collecting a team of hyper-specialists who all have a reputation and a discipline to protect. Generalists are best-placed to fully grasp the magnitude of the mysteries of our origins, without taking the 'word' of a hyper-specialist as 'evidence' that such a thing at such a time couldn't have happened (etc).

Archaeology is a slow process, and when so much is left unexcavated (see the Olmec culture in MesoAmerica), and when what is excavated is ignored if it conflicts with the existing paradigm (see 'Forbidden Archaeology') - well, what's a person to do? Perhaps turn to a man who had no fear of losing a reputation or protecting a narrow-minded discipline, who began by simply researching and sharing his findings, and who went on to be one of the most thorogh and broad-minded authors in the field of anthropological and archaeological works.

RIP Zecharia. I was almost lured away from a serious consideration of your work when I started out here at ATS, but I'm glad that the fates have brought me back to a better appreciation of your contribution to the knowedge base of mankind.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 07:21 AM
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I reviewed his first book more than thirty years ago and was so appalled by the astronomical howlers that I descended into smarmy condescension that I deeply regret now that I'm older and wiser myself. But the factual problems were real then and remain real.

See www.jamesoberg.com... and all style/tone criticisms of that review are accepted humbly.

My impression of these kinds of books is that they serve the need of many people for a 'short cut / end run' to self-satisfying pseudo-knowledge that allows anyone to smugly think they have leap-frogged 'know-it-all establishment scientists' to become more advanced, more wise, more knowledgeable.

Having made nasty comments myself in the 1976 review linked above, I cannot in good conscience denounce the nasty ad hominems of current eager-believers in their dismissal of all criticism and of the hypothesized mean-spirited motives of the critics. In this topic I've forfeited my rights to object to that technique, but at least I still should be allowed to point it out.

Hope this helps.


edit on 22-1-2011 by JimOberg because: typo



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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A lot can be learned from reading Sitchin, I don't agree with everything he said but he was onto someting for sure. The Sumerian writings are fascinating. People who believe everything are gullible, people who believe nothing are skeptics but I think most on ATS are just looking for some truth which isn't always easy to find. Here's to the continuing search for truth.



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