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G20 officer: 'This ain't Canada right now'

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posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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G20 officer: 'This ain't Canada right now'


www.thestar.com

The male protester insists that, as a Canadian, he has the right to refuse the search. But the officer disagrees.

“This ain’t Canada right now,” he says.

While the crowd laughs in disbelief, the officer continues to tell the protester he has two choices: leave, or open his bag. The protester continues to refuse to do either. “I just don’t like to have my civil rights violated,” he says eventually.

“There is no civil rights here in this area,” the officer replies. “How many times do you gotta be told that?”

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posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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Some more footage of the G20 police interaction with crowd members, that brings up some questions.

"There is no civil rights here in this area?"

Searching people BEYOND the established perimeters they had outlined?

Sounds an aweful lot like fascist nonsense to me.

I can understand the need for protection, particularly in light of some of the recent happenings worldwide, but this seems like over the top, power-tripping authoritorianism.

Check the clip and weigh in here folks...




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posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
"There is no civil rights here in this area?"


Yep get used to it. Won't be long now before the TSA spreads across the border



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
"There is no civil rights here in this area?"


Yep get used to it. Won't be long now before the TSA spreads across the border


And get used to the NAU?

Looks like they are even getting into some "profiling" in this particular case, IMO

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posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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This is just plain terrible, unfortunately it happened a lot. When I was going through the downtown Toronto area on the Sunday I got searched several times even when I wasn't near the fence. They would make it clear that you either get searched or you have to leave. The most basic freedoms were violated during that weekend, fortunately there were a lot of witnesses and I'm hoping that disciplinary actions will be taken against those involved.

I'd also suggest watching this documentary on the whole thing, it's 2 hours long but definitely worth your time.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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just for a sec, let me play devil's advocate

the officer may be right.
This isn't Canada right NOW.

when the G20 convenes it is a mixture
of different international laws concerning
security. It's like a temporary embassy
unto itself if I'm not mistaken. Canada's
laws are temporarily suspended while
they convene.


edit on 1/21/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:31 PM
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Sorry to say that when a modern western "democratic state" chooses to lock down the society they do so freely.

This protest follows the regular police mo. Discredit protesters, and justify force.

Take example one, police dressed as protesters attack other police.


Later that day we saw example number two.
Police dressed as protesters allowed to cross police lines.

*Observe the street close of police, and the complicity of of silence by a large number of regular police officers.


In response the police MUST restore order. In our next examples we see how they do so with zeal. Arbitrary arrest, assault, illegal detainment in 10 by 12 dog cages for those that oppose the will of the state.




I assure you these are not out of context, or misleading in any way. This is what happens to outpourings of dissent that do not occur within approved movements and organizations.

The Western World has perfected political control of their populations. Most have been lulled into loving servitude. Whatever dissent does exist is tightly manipulated. The right/left paradigm keeps political issues in a controlled realm. Media aids in controlling what issues are discussed, and more importantly how they are perceived. Education ensures that the population is limited in their ability and ambition for discovering unapproved ideas.

In those occasional outbursts of real dissent the state is very prepared to use any means necessary to prevent the messages from reaching the general population. Often times this includes an attitude of punishment, and the teaching of a lesson to those who dare dissent the power of the state.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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As long as there are people with guns/badges willing to enforce whatever policy is handed to them regardless of whether said policy is lawful, I see no hope for a peaceful resolution to the tyranny creeping into every day life.

What was demonstrated here was tyranny and it seems that those wishing to control the populace are getting bolder with showing their true nature.

JFK stated that "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." Truer words could not be spoken.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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That isn't the case. When Pope JP2 came to Canada you didn't see totalitarianism like this. Security was high but rights weren't revoked for his visit. Welcome to the Harper Regime. Our motto, "We can do it just as well above the 49th Parallel."



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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I highly doubt that our rights were temporarily under suspension in the toronto police riot.
There was some legal opinion already stated this was not so.Though the cops were told it was so from what i understand.
Their actions were reprehensible.Including undercover police leading the violence.
The whole attitude of the police during public demonstrations is always the same mix of outrage that wed dare, and arrogant denial of our rights to do so.as well as the attitude that those participating are somewhat out on the lunatic fringe.
The same old crap as they pulled on the hippies demos.
Youd think they would at least make some changes....
Typically police presence at all these functions is to intimidate all and sundry with no regard for rights.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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If he was a Canadian police officer and he says it's not Canada here, then tell him he has no jurisdiction here and to move along.

Just be sure there is someone to come bail you out.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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Even though the tragic murder of an officer occured only 2 weeks ago, I am still furious with the non sense we see with our police forces in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area).
Yesterday I recieved a call from a friend who told me he spent 9 hours in a jail cell...
He was not fed, kept in isolation and was throroughly strip searched...
For what you ask?
He was pulled over and because he had a heater, a pair of gloves, tools, a touqe and a crow bar.
Turns out there have been a rash of house robberies and the officer believed he found the suspect.
They arrested him on scene and kept him in a cell, he was refused a laywer, he was not given a call to anyone.
He did however get charged for having a small hand knife...
*sigh*
And they wonder why people go crazy and kill people...
Its getting out of control, I swear... I have met numerous people who explained stories I would not repeat over the internet.
Lets just say the cops around here, like there women young, and like to show them their confiscated "contraband".
I respect the sacrifice of officers but I will never sacrifice my right to not live in a nanny state.
When people commit actions for what they believe in, nothing can prevent them from accomplishing it, even the men in blue.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by tribaltrip
He did however get charged for having a small hand knife...


Which couldn't happen unless he had a parole stipulation to that effect. That's different. That will go before a judge. The cops BETTER be right.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 05:42 PM
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Please don't. There is no devil's advocate to be played. These people were standing on public property beyond the five meter search perimeter illegally established. The police officers have no right to search these people's property without consent or warrant and have no right to force them to leave if they do not consent to the search.

You would be correct if these people were entering the building. But since they weren't and since they remained beyond the established perimeter, the police officers had no right to do what they did. And since they were on public property, it IS Canada whether there is a G20 meeting or not.

These people's civil rights were violated. Plain and simple.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
just for a sec, let me play devil's advocate

the officer may be right.
This isn't Canada right NOW.

when the G20 convenes it is a mixture
of different international laws concerning
security. It's like a temporary embassy
unto itself if I'm not mistaken. Canada's
laws are temporarily suspended while
they convene.


edit on 1/21/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)


No it was completely illegal. There was some kind of report, from the top, in the news concerning this. They're blaming the police for overstepping the boundaries, they claim for, misenterpreting, and also they feel given too much power, or to believe this. This is under investigation. A older tax officer, had his artifical leg ripped off and was held for several days without charges, most of those held were never ever charged and they never seemed to arrest the few hooded badguys doing the vandalism. Even our NDP representative was quoted as questioning or acknowledging speculation in the Niagra Falls paper concerning WHY that occurred and that the these hooded guys could have been plants to stir up blaming the innocent and peaceful protestors.

Basically Canadian Law did apply. It was not off the hook. They are trying to shuffle blame on how a misunderstanding took place with the police. They're calling this a misunderstanding.

The day the US tries to cross the border you'll see NWO escorted out by the people with the bullhorns, I and my children will be front row.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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Yeah, that sounded like the this officer was just pulling rubbish out of his arse, and stating it matter of factly.

He comes across as a total thug and bully, the way that he stands right over, and in the face of the guy in the black shirt. He was definitely trying to intimidate him and others. Pretty sad state of affairs going on today in certain areas. When one thinks of Police State nonsense, this fits the bill imho.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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As a Canadian and a self made Torontonian (moved there at 19) I don't believe the cops did anything wrong. I am going to get sh*t on for that statement I am sure... but seeing the mess that happened during the G20 and the outright disrespect and vandalism that the city of Toronto faced was just disgusting. If people are going to post video's like this then I wish they would also post video

like this: www.youtube.com...

or like this: www.youtube.com...

or like this: www.youtube.com...

I am sorry but I don't give a sh*t what your protesting or if your chanting 'Freedom' while your destroying property that someone else has to pay for. The last video shows how disgusting some people really are 'look out people, there moving in' one woman warns on a loud speaker to the vandals as she talks about 'the world we live in'. Yes the world we live that you are destroying.

Was destroying the downtown of a city most of these protesters weren't even from the only way to get their point across. In fact what exactly was their point? Anything that these losers were trying to get their points across about were lost in all the uncivilized and reckless damage they were spewing forth.

I am not one for siding with police brutality, but out off all the footage I have seen I have not seen anything worth crying about for the protesters. In fact I have seen many videos of the G20 footage regarding the police and I have seen nothing that even holds a candle to real police brutality. Everything they did was in response to the destruction these pigs that were let loose in downtown Toronto were creating, and even then the police were, dare I say timid, because they were out numbered 10 to 1.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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I am sad that I am waking up to this at such a late hour. I despair that we will be able to recover that which we have lost without some sort of mass, God-forbid violent, overturning of the governments.

I love my nation and it was founded with great principles and I would protect it and the Constitution. I can not speak for Canada but all the Canadians I have ever met were wonderful so they must be doing something right.

So how do we oppose this? Informing is one way, and I endeavor at it. Local political action... that one is a little harder but I am doing some. What else?

We must stop this insanity now. It just gets worse by the day. Things that were labeled outlandish conspiracies a few years ago are ho-hum news segments on the nightly news today.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by bozzchem
As long as there are people with guns/badges willing to enforce whatever policy is handed to them regardless of whether said policy is lawful, I see no hope for a peaceful resolution to the tyranny creeping into every day life.


“There is no crueler tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of law and in the name of justice.” - Charles de Montesquieu



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 08:03 PM
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Lamenting the use of violence....with violence.



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