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Originally posted by The_Zomar
reply to post by PoorFool
Insults only show you are losing the debate.
Originally posted by Ciphor
Originally posted by The_Zomar
reply to post by PoorFool
Insults only show you are losing the debate.
No. They can show frustration in a debate you already won, like this case. Frustration with dealing with you for one. No mater what evidence, what degree, what Dr. vegetarians agreeing with us, you refuse to acknowledge any of it
It's debating with a wall 101. Frustrating stuff.
And in return you supply soy milk and lunabar links. You are a we todd dude.
Originally posted by metalshredmetal
*lowers head* this thread is pathetic. all you meat eaters ganging up on poor 'ol plant eaters. What's the big deal? obviously you can eat both. BUT one thing i don't think anyone pointed out: NOONE will ever survive on an all-meat diet like someone THRIVES from an all-plant diet. I defy you to find one person who eats nothing but meat (like vegans/vegs eat nothing but plants) who is still alive to talk about it, or who isn't riddled with diseases.
p.s. no supplements allowed, i'm talking 100% water and meat, for years straight.edit on 1/29/11 by metalshredmetal because: p.s.
Originally posted by metalshredmetal
*lowers head* this thread is pathetic. all you meat eaters ganging up on poor 'ol plant eaters. What's the big deal? obviously you can eat both. BUT one thing i don't think anyone pointed out: NOONE will ever survive on an all-meat diet like someone THRIVES from an all-plant diet. I defy you to find one person who eats nothing but meat (like vegans/vegs eat nothing but plants) who is still alive to talk about it, or who isn't riddled with diseases.
p.s. no supplements allowed, i'm talking 100% water and meat, for years straight.edit on 1/29/11 by metalshredmetal because: p.s.
There are very few frugivores amongst the mammals in general, and primates in particular. The only apes that are predominantly fruit eaters (gibbons and siamangs) are atypical for apes in many behavioral and ecological respects and eat substantial amounts of vegetation. Orangutans are similar, with no observations in the wild of eating meat. Gorillas are more typically vegetarian, with less emphasis on fruit. Several years ago a very elegant study was done on the relationship between body size and diet in primates (and some other mammal groups). The only primates on the list with pure diets were the very small species (which are entirely insectivorous) and the largest (which specialize in vegetarian diet). However, the spectrum of dietary preferences reflect the daily food intake needs of each body size and the relative availability of food resources in a tropical forest. Our closest relatives among the apes are the chimpanzees (i.e., anatomically, behaviorally, genetically, and evolutionarily), who frequently kill and eat other mammals (including other primates).
www.vrg.org...
The key category in the discussion of human diet is omnivores, which are defined as generalized feeders, with neither carnivore nor herbivore specializations for acquiring or processing food, and who are capable of consuming and do consume both animal protein and vegetation. They are basically *opportunistic* feeders (survive by eating what is available) with more generalized anatomical and physiological traits, especially the dentition (teeth). All the available evidence indicates that the natural human diet is omnivorous and would include meat. We are not, however, required to consume animal protein. We have a choice.
There are a number of popular myths about vegetarianism that have no scientific basis in fact. One of these myths is that man is naturally a vegetarian because our bodies resemble plant eaters, not carnivores. In fact we are omnivores, capable of either eating meat or plant foods. The following addresses the unscientific theory of man being only a plant eater. Confusion between Taxonomy and Diet Much of the misinformation on the issue of man's being a natural vegetarian arises from confusion between taxonomic (in biology, the procedure of classifying organisms in established categories) and dietary characteristics. Members of the mammalian Order Carnivora may or may not be exclusive meat eaters. Those which eat only meat are carnivores. Dietary adaptations are not limited by a simple dichotomy between herbivores (strict vegetarians) and carnivores (strict meat-eaters), but include frugivores (predominantly fruit), gramnivores (nuts, seeds, etc.), folivores (leaves), insectivores (carnivore-insects and small vertebrates), etc. Is is also important to remember that the relation between the form (anatomy/physiology) and function (behavior) is not always one to one. Individual anatomical structures can serve one or more functions and similar functions can be served by several forms.
Originally posted by metalshredmetal
*lowers head* this thread is pathetic. all you meat eaters ganging up on poor 'ol plant eaters. What's the big deal? obviously you can eat both. BUT one thing i don't think anyone pointed out: NOONE will ever survive on an all-meat diet like someone THRIVES from an all-plant diet. I defy you to find one person who eats nothing but meat (like vegans/vegs eat nothing but plants) who is still alive to talk about it, or who isn't riddled with diseases.
p.s. no supplements allowed, i'm talking 100% water and meat, for years straight.edit on 1/29/11 by metalshredmetal because: p.s.
Besides we're not ganging up on anybody. This thread was started to attack us meat-eaters
There are many other researchers who disagree with him.
Originally posted by Ciphor
reply to post by rusethorcain
There are many other researchers who disagree with him.
Typical reply. WHERE?! MANY? Link me ONE, there is many so it shouldn't be hard to find? GET ON IT. in 38 pages you have not linked ONE CREDITABLE PERSON who "disagrees" with the SCIENTIFIC FACTS PRESENTED (not just "said")
No supporting evidence just take your word for it AGAIN?
lol. Thread is over, and unless 1 of you can prove otherwise (you can't and haven't in 38 pages) you need to just stop asking us to trust your words.
Put up or shut up, and none of you put up so...