Oakland 2nd Graders Reportedly Engage In Sex Acts, Teacher Suspended

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In one case, several students apparently took off their clothes and were naked in the classroom. In the second incident, a boy and girl reportedly engaged in oral sex in front of their classmates.

What in the hell is happening in this country? Where have our morals and values gone?

Take a look at the TV and Music Videos those kids are watching if you want an answer. An NO, I'm not implying society or the media is to blame. The parents are the problem. Lack of parenting, lack of quality education.

Recently. I've begun to think I'm living repeats of "The twilight zone", or "Outer limits".
Except neither one of those old shows could have dreamed up anything like this. Are people just going mad?
Or are there more mind controlled zombies out there than we thought there were?

S&F

reply to post by phishybongwaters


I totally agree with you. Too many parents today use the TV as a babysitter with no regard for what their children are watching.

Here is my question,

Just how old were these second graders?

There was a case in my locality recently where an two high school students had an argument. One, a junior, shot another, a senior, and killed him. The senior was 19 years old. The junior was 20.

Maybe these second graders were 10 or 12 years of age?

Our world is past the point of saving, I believe. S&F.

It's all the internet porn.

reply to post by butcherguy

Our world is past the point of saving, I believe.

How utterly depressing if you truly believe that. We can easily repair the damage done, but it requires effort, and it might be risky, so that closes the door for the average joe.

speaking of parents not regulating TV, I honestly thought it was a joke, but there is a show running in the UK, on the bbc i think, called "The joys of teen sex", and as the title implies, it's about horny teens having sex. So lets get this straight, city A can't put Christmas in the title of their parade, as it's offensive to some people, but we can have a show glamorizing teen sex? And yes, I was active as a teen, but let me tell you it was far from the norm.

The stuff I hear about today, while making me wish i was in school now, is crazy, blow job contests in grade 8? REALLY? Enjoy your mouth cancer and herpes.

teacher suspended? he should have been taken into the street and shot.

reply to post by IamAbeliever

A teacher at Oakland’s Markham Elementary School has been suspended indefinitely

Suspended. How about sent right to effing jail?????

In a letter sent to parents of Markham students on Thursday, Booker offered an apology by telling them that the incidents “represent an unacceptable lack of supervision. I understand there is great anger over this news.”

He offered an apology???? WTF as if an apology and "understanding there is great anger" is any kind of response. Yeah, sure they can't publicly say much due to legalities but come on, people. Just have the decency to say "no comment". Don't spout this kind of condescending cr@p.

reply to post by GLantern101


It's a combination of many things. As mentioned before, lack of parenting and supervision is a big part of it. We can't totally blame porn or the television. These things have been around for awhile now. Granted the TV shows have gotten racier, and with the internet there is easier access to porn. But parents are too busy with their own stuff--jobs to make ends meet, checking their friends Facebook status, etc.. It's a complete meltdown of society.

And are we that hard up for teachers that we can't screen them a little better?

reply to post by Neopan100

teacher suspended? he should have been taken into the street and shot.

Or, at the very least, the teacher should be brought up on child neglect, endangerment, or possibly pornography and/or molestation charges!

I have 2 children under the age of 10; these stories make me want to

Even though mine are in private school, I do "drop" in unannounced quite frequently (but yet unobtrusively)!

reply to post by IamAbeliever

It's a combination of many things. As mentioned before, lack of parenting and supervision is a big part of it. We can't totally blame porn or the television. These things have been around for awhile now. Granted the TV shows have gotten racier, and with the internet there is easier access to porn. But parents are too busy with their own stuff--jobs to make ends meet, checking their friends Facebook status, etc.. It's a complete meltdown of society.

I agree that these could be valid reasons for other locations...BUT, It's Oakland, California for goodness sakes! Check it out...I don't think this particular school has parents with jobs or are concerned about FB...they are concerned about drugs, alcohol, and could be abusers themselves...

And are we that hard up for teachers that we can't screen them a little better?

California is broke! Oakland is worse; I don't know about this *particular* teacher, but I would have to be living under the bridge before I would teach in some of those schools...you are a babysitter for abused children who are living with meth addicts and may be armed and dangerous!

When you have shows like "the joys of teen sex"... its not suprising.

reply to post by IamAbeliever

Where have our morals and values gone?

In a classroom, a place for learning, this is hardly appropriate, and the teacher was wrong to let it happen (probably a pedo). BUT SERIOUSLY, I want you to explain exactly why sex is immoral. At what age does it become moral? If two young teens feel the desire to have sex, and they are below your proclaimed moral age limit, the act is immoral? I find that logic absurd and ridiculous.

Gay people for example, I let them do what they are going to do and don't get all angry or tell them they are sinning. It does make me slightly uncomfortable to be around homosexual people, and my inner self knows it's wrong to think like that, but it's just a reaction I have, I don't think what they do is wrong or immoral. They don't bother me, and I don't bother them.

But back to the topic at hand, this quote has me a little skeptical:

Booker offered an apology by telling them that the incidents “represent an unacceptable lack of supervision. I understand there is great anger over this news.”

The article states he was there on both occasions, but he claims a "lack of supervision" was the cause of this problem. So was he there or not?

Originally posted by WhizPhiz

Booker offered an apology by telling them that the incidents “represent an unacceptable lack of supervision. I understand there is great anger over this news.”

The article states he was there on both occasions, but he claims a "lack of supervision" was the cause of this problem. So was he there or not?

It's possible that both happened. If the classroom was severely overcrowded (and I'm guessing that with the state of education funding at the moment, it was) and.or other multitude of distractions were going on (it is second grade, after all) then the teacher could have been in the classroom, but unaware (for a time) that this was going on... Without a statement from the teacher, there is no way to know for sure, at this point.

reply to post by LadySkadi

If the classroom was severely overcrowded (and I'm guessing that with the state of education funding at the moment, it was) and.or other multitude of distractions were going on (it is second grade, after all) then the teacher could have been in the classroom, but unaware (for a time) that this was going on...

That's what I'm thinking, kids can get up to all sorts of mischief when the class is free to be noisy and walk around, it doesn't even require an overcrowded class. And considering he doesn't seem to be getting charged with anything, I doubt he was actually aware of the events as they were happening. It's just our natural reaction to make someone pay harshly when crap like this happens. Kids don't just give each other oral sex without the teacher telling them to, they're all innocent and stuff.

Originally posted by phishybongwaters
Take a look at the TV and Music Videos those kids are watching if you want an answer. An NO, I'm not implying society or the media is to blame. The parents are the problem. Lack of parenting, lack of quality education.

When I was growing up in the 50's my parents instructions were simple; "Be home by dinner time". When our children were growing up in the 70's the instructions were the same. I think that changes began in the 80's as both parents started working and divorce stats rose, media became the babysitter. The term "latchkey kids" was not known until the 80's. This is not a indictment of these times and happenings, just perceived observations.

Peace..........yak055h

Originally posted by phishybongwaters
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Our world is past the point of saving, I believe.

How utterly depressing if you truly believe that. We can easily repair the damage done, but it requires effort, and it might be risky, so that closes the door for the average joe.

speaking of parents not regulating TV, I honestly thought it was a joke, but there is a show running in the UK, on the bbc i think, called "The joys of teen sex", and as the title implies, it's about horny teens having sex. So lets get this straight, city A can't put Christmas in the title of their parade, as it's offensive to some people, but we can have a show glamorizing teen sex? And yes, I was active as a teen, but let me tell you it was far from the norm.

The stuff I hear about today, while making me wish i was in school now, is crazy, blow job contests in grade 8? REALLY? Enjoy your mouth cancer and herpes.

Well, for many years their have been parents complaining about the content of mass media and the content covered in the schools sex education classes. They were called prudes then and still are now.

I don't know what is going to change things, some people have tried, but the majority have belittled the fact that those people that are trying have MORALS. It makes it sad for me, and yes, depressing.

It's very unfortunate things like this happen. A friend of mine has an 11 yr old girl that attends school in Oakland. She has many stories and most of them involve oral sex in the bathrooms. It's happening everwhere and it's just plain SAD. Parents need to do a better job parenting. Throw the babysitter aka (TV) out when there still young. Sit down for dinner "Together", ask questions and really communicate with your kids. Have family nights. You can only shelter your children from the nastiness that clouds our world for so long and eventually they will be surrounded by it. Build self esteem, strong morals, and a good foundation when they are young; otherwise the up-hill battle will be that much more difficult.

cheers

The children are innocent. That is simply what happens when "I show you mine, you show me yours" is able to go on. Now WHY it was not stopped is the real story. What was the teacher doing? Was he or she watching this happen? IF so, criminal charges are in order.