It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Mutilations. Abductions. Field Designs. Fodder For A Debate.

page: 1
1

log in

join
share:

posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 09:37 AM
link   
MUTILATIONS. We read of it every so often. Often the norm would be 'unexplained' cow mutilations, although other animals have been noted as well. Yes I've read the stories as most of the readers of this post have as well of Cattle Mutilations. Apparently there are some characteristics which are common to these mutilations. Here's a quick characteristic profile for mutilations.


Your Basic Mutilation A standard mutilation exhibits one or more of the following characteristics: * Usually occurs with cattle, horses, or sheep. * Jaw cut: A precision, surgical-like cut of surrounding flesh to completely expose the jaw bone and teeth. The tongue and surrounding glandular tissue has been removed. * The sex organs, navel, and nipples have been surgically removed. * The anus and surrounding glandular tissues have been surgically removed. * No evidence of any blood, despite the severity of the procedures. * No footprints of any kind leading to or from the animal. * The animal is often found in the middle of a perfectly created circle. * The cuts are made so precisely that a surgeon with a full operating room and a steady hand with the laser would have a difficult time matching these field cuts. * The precision of the cuts and lack of blood rule out predator kills.



Link To Source With Pictures (Graphic Photos)

OK. This is indeed a bit out of the ordinary. Alot of evidence which in my opinion cannot be simply brushed off. No doubt about it. Based on what I've read the way the animals were mutilated do appear as though it is a scientific type of dissection. If Humans ever discover a planet which has life forms, you know darn right well that Man would most certaily do studies including dissections of said planets life forms. I believe that other advanced life forms would do that as well if they discovered Earth and had the means to travel here. It makes sense in that respect.
Do I believe that Aliens came down to earth and decided to mutilate these animals? Frankly while I can't rule it out, I don't really believe this to be the case. I have a hard time believing that Extraterrestrial life forms came to this planet, took some livestock, did some surgery and dumped the carcasses. Call me cynical as the shoe fits. I'm too lazy to type out Extrateresstrials over and over so I will just say ET's from this point. I would assume that ET's would more than likely have some sort of a preservation process where they could take the animal(s) whole, do their studies and bring the whole animal back to their home. If they did want to do studies on the fly so to speak don't you think they would have a better way of disposing of the remains than simply dumping the carcasses in public view like a cigarette butt out a car window? I do. It could be several things, including Occult, Devil Worship, or maybe even something like a very strange hazing ceremony.
Aliens? Nope. I don't believe it.

ABDUCTIONS. Makes a great story. ET's come down in a fantastic glowing light display and take away an unsuspecting human being who was doing nothing more than minding his own business. They do all kinds of tests on this person, including the infamous probe. Then they just release him/her like an unwanted animal on the side of the road. Why are so many of those 'abducted' usually not the most respected of the community. Is it that ET's are smart and figure that no one will believe this person when he comes clean with his/her 'story' or are they not very intelligent in that they don't go for the highly intelligent, leaders of the world? Wouldn't it make sense that if they go through all the trouble to get here, to do the actual abduction, and do the studies to actually give the abductees some sort of a message for our planet? Yes I believe that ET's have visited the earth and may have had contact in ancient timesm but current abductions?
Sorry. I don't believe it.

FIELD DESIGNS. Alot of people say Crop Circles. I've seen the pictures, the documetaries, read the stories. Oh yes indeed. They are real. They are very impressive in design. Very intricate. I love looking at the pictures of them. Again I say. ET's?
An ET flies light years through space with technology that even the brightest minds on earth can't even think of. They choose to communicate with Earthlings by drawing pictures in fields of crops? Does this make sense to you? They would have to be able to communicate in other fashions, even if it were to be landing on the front lawn of the White House and say - 'HERE WE ARE." If I can scramble signals with items I can buy at a local Radio Shack, then couldn't they just plug into our networks and communicate? The Crop designs are real, but I believe it is earthlings who create them.
ET's? Sorry. I don't buy it.




posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 10:09 AM
link   
My opinion of your opinion?
Youve gotta be seven kinds of brain dead to discount whats taking place....
If the mutilations are being performed by devil worshipping maniacs or other earthly means, there would be a large pile of forensic evidence gathered by now.
Do i think there is a cult of humans that have the means to pull off even one simulated mutilation ? NO.
The little talked about side of these mutes, is the HUMAN mutilations which have also been recorded.
In america, and brazil there have been instances of such.
The Hudson valley sightings of massive triangles have also been rumoured to have insluded human mutes, though they were kept under wraps.
There is a bizarre and frightening air about these reports.
The Cattle mutilations have included the finding of some of these animals remains far rom the place where they were kept.
The apearance of having been dropped from some height, is also indication of means of abduction far beyond the capability of an earth bound cult.
Coupled with these mutilation reports lately, has been the reports of half cats found all over the country.
Cats being founds cut in half with only the one half being found.
It is obvious that the mutilations are being conducted by someone with very sophisticated means at their disposal, and not some half assed group of wierdos.
no pun intended.....
Till you come up with alternate mechAAnisms which are feasable for humans to have used to complete these grisly happenings, you are just arguing negatively with no actual platform of facts to back up your negativity.
regards s



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 10:20 AM
link   

Originally posted by stirling
My opinion of your opinion?
Youve gotta be seven kinds of brain dead to discount whats taking place....
If the mutilations are being performed by devil worshipping maniacs or other earthly means, there would be a large pile of forensic evidence gathered by now.
Do i think there is a cult of humans that have the means to pull off even one simulated mutilation ? NO.
The little talked about side of these mutes, is the HUMAN mutilations which have also been recorded.
In america, and brazil there have been instances of such.
The Hudson valley sightings of massive triangles have also been rumoured to have insluded human mutes, though they were kept under wraps.
There is a bizarre and frightening air about these reports.
The Cattle mutilations have included the finding of some of these animals remains far rom the place where they were kept.
The apearance of having been dropped from some height, is also indication of means of abduction far beyond the capability of an earth bound cult.
Coupled with these mutilation reports lately, has been the reports of half cats found all over the country.
Cats being founds cut in half with only the one half being found.
It is obvious that the mutilations are being conducted by someone with very sophisticated means at their disposal, and not some half assed group of wierdos.
no pun intended.....
Till you come up with alternate mechAAnisms which are feasable for humans to have used to complete these grisly happenings, you are just arguing negatively with no actual platform of facts to back up your negativity.
regards s


It has been said that I am actually 8 kinds of Brain dead. Hey, it's all good.
You ask for alternate mechAAnisms. I said that I don't believe that ET's would do mutilations and dump a carcass. That is my belief. Anyone established butcher with access to all the tools a Butcher has could do this, including the lack of blood.
Any mortician worth his salt could also do this rather easily. There are ways it can be done.
edit on 21/1/2011 by withopeneyes because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 10:48 AM
link   
reply to post by withopeneyes
 


They would not dump the carcass? What do you think they would need to store trash for?
Get what you need, dump what you don't. Save resources by not having to dump it somewhere else far away.
Unless the risks of being found out were too high, which is not the case.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 11:20 AM
link   

Originally posted by Roufas
reply to post by withopeneyes
 


They would not dump the carcass? What do you think they would need to store trash for?
Get what you need, dump what you don't. Save resources by not having to dump it somewhere else far away.
Unless the risks of being found out were too high, which is not the case.


You have a valid point. I can see your side, though I don't agree with it. I simply don't believe that ET's are responsible for these cases of animal mutilation. Would they simply dump a carcass after removing a few parts? They may very well. Our scientists do it to specimens during dissection quite often. Frankly I think that the combination of dissected cows and vivid imaginations are much like vinegar and baking soda. Alone the 2 components are stable, but when mixed together it creates a brief but, fun fizz.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 03:08 PM
link   
reply to post by withopeneyes
 


most of the mutilations where say for instance the eye or jaw is half gone is thanks to big brother. Thats the parts they would test for radioactive elements and the effects of the poisons they unleash on us every day (chemtrails is one example)



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 05:13 PM
link   
There is the theme of goverment involvement in cattle mutes, and as i recall, an army scalpel was found at the scene of one mutilation,(under the body)
This is the only hard evidence that i am aware of, though black helicpters have been cited too in some cases.
The point is that many of these mutes were in places where our technology would not have been sufficient to complete the job without being caught at it.perhaps not every time, but certainly sometime.....
The ET hypothesis makes a lot of sense when one considers the UFO reports that are usually part of the scenario as in the Dulce NM cases.
You havent even begun to acknowledge the HUMN MUTES yet so i think you are in a sort of denial really.
The world wide angle of the mutilations also has been sadly neglected, and though it goes on in other countries, little is heard over here about it.
Suffice it to say, that whole flocks of sheep have turned up mutes in the UK,And the problem has been documented even in the south american pampas where the gauchos too have reported mutes.
As well, there is also the mystery of the water tanks and swimming pools ponds etc that are being drained silently overnight in argentina hinterlands.
The Tanques australianos(australian tanks) are water storage for cattle and are kept full for them to drink from.
Instances of sound and non cracked tanks being drained by forces unknown of all the water, leaving no ground traces at all.are beginning to mount.
Brazil has reported one human mutilation,and there is rumoured to be a number of other unreported ones.
The US air force has also had one abduction and mutilation on the white sands missle range a long while back......
There are many cat mutilations reported where only one half the cat is found too......dont ask me which half...try linda moulton howe.....



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 05:32 PM
link   
Yes these are things that can be debated among the people. The problem is the other evidence that is often ignored. Like the cave pantings in this video.





Or the nazca lines which were made hundreds of years ago yet can only be seen from the sky when we had no planes or any sort of flying craft. Why would people spend all there time in the fields building these things if no one is going to see them? It just doesn't make sense to me.






You can say there images to there gods but then why do some of them like landing strips? Why are they showing there gods landing strips? Do they think there god needs a landing strip to come down to earth? That'd be kind of silly tome.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 01:33 PM
link   

Originally posted by stirling
There is the theme of goverment involvement in cattle mutes, and as i recall, an army scalpel was found at the scene of one mutilation,(under the body)
This is the only hard evidence that i am aware of, though black helicpters have been cited too in some cases.
The point is that many of these mutes were in places where our technology would not have been sufficient to complete the job without being caught at it.perhaps not every time, but certainly sometime.....
The ET hypothesis makes a lot of sense when one considers the UFO reports that are usually part of the scenario as in the Dulce NM cases.
You havent even begun to acknowledge the HUMN MUTES yet so i think you are in a sort of denial really.
The world wide angle of the mutilations also has been sadly neglected, and though it goes on in other countries, little is heard over here about it.
Suffice it to say, that whole flocks of sheep have turned up mutes in the UK,And the problem has been documented even in the south american pampas where the gauchos too have reported mutes.
As well, there is also the mystery of the water tanks and swimming pools ponds etc that are being drained silently overnight in argentina hinterlands.
The Tanques australianos(australian tanks) are water storage for cattle and are kept full for them to drink from.
Instances of sound and non cracked tanks being drained by forces unknown of all the water, leaving no ground traces at all.are beginning to mount.
Brazil has reported one human mutilation,and there is rumoured to be a number of other unreported ones.
The US air force has also had one abduction and mutilation on the white sands missle range a long while back......
There are many cat mutilations reported where only one half the cat is found too......dont ask me which half...try linda moulton howe.....

I agree with you, these mutilations are world wide phenomena, there has been many in africa, asia too but the farmers are not educated enough to tell if it is surgical or not. And if it is occult members then how would they drop a whole cow carcass from anywhere from 15 feet to 40 feet? Also what is not being mentioned is the paralysis, the cows were most likely paralyzed before being mutilated, internal organs being removed without any obvious points of entry etc, so definitely not occult, could be gov but highly likely it is ETs harvesting genetic material or even trying to combine different species together and observe their outcome. Black helicopters etc i dont believe that they are flying around dumping cows but they are there because of UFO activity seen on radar, there are no black helis flying around in vietnam, cambodia, mongolia so it is not them



new topics

top topics



 
1

log in

join