Originally posted by SlyFox_79
....Very difficult seems like an understatement....
it is and it isnt. i think the problem lies in the perceived
complexity of the subject. and in attempting to grasp the perceived
complexity, people often overshoot the mark.
you do not have to have a degree in chemistry to boil a kettle of water.
you do not have to consult physicist (or a guru) to kick a soccer ball.
similarly, quantum effects are going on around you all the time and can be pretty easy to conceptualize.
one of the great points of conflict, for those whom argue about these things, is in applying the principles of quantum mechanics to large-scale
objects (i believe madnessinmysoul used potatoes earlier). but even the simplest of persons knows that what is true at one level of reality must
certainly be true at any other level. you asked about the nature of truth, or how to know something. this, IMO, is the nature of truth: that it
crosses levels. such is the nature of a metaphor.
to illustrate the simplicity, i will pose a question that i have become quite fond of:
"can you hear the shape of a drum?"
i would hope that you answer yes. how is this possible? any physical solid discrete object and its functional characteristics can be represented
completely by a similarly complex isomorphic waveform.
this can be proven by the simple fact that the reverse is also true: you can rebuild the drum solely from the sonic frequency data......assuming
that your waveform is sufficiently detailed
. what is really amazing about this example is that it illustrates the exchange of information that is
implicated in quantum mechanics.
when you hear the drum, you re-build the drum inside of your mind. some might argue that a mental conceptualization is not a "thing", but assuming
that it is, you have effectively made a transformation from thing to no-thing to thing. whats more: you have crossed a meta-level of reality by
representing the *drum* inside of the *brain*.
waveform = discrete object
naturally, the details of making such a representation of anything are monstrously difficult. this paper
outlines the current efforts of science and math to understand the drum question. amazingly, YOU can
understand by direct experience how this is possible WITHOUT any of the math. YOU are a quantum simplicity machine
P.S. i wrote a reply to your OP which is at the bottom of the last page. we are not in the business of affirming mysticism. by understanding
quantum mechanics, you may endup an atheist yourself. hahaha
edit on 22-1-2011 by tgidkp because: (no reason given)