reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 02:17 PM by DjOsiris
We the People (state citizens) existed for 90+ years before the UNCONSTITUTIONAL 2nd class US (federal) citizenship was created by the 14th amendment
for the emancipated slaves.
Constitutional power flow:
We the People -->
county (sheriff and one supreme court) -->
state constitution -->
fed constitution -->
fed (legislative / executive / judicial) -->
US citizens and corporations (under Congress (legislative branch))
US citizens have no direct access to the Constitution or Bill of Rights.. as Congress (your master(s)) stand in a superior position, between You and
the Constitution, and will interpret the Constitution for you. (look at the chart)
The slaves were NEVER freed... they were STOLEN from BENEATH the southern plantation owner, and were placed UNDER Congress... Congress became the NEW
slave owners / masters. (look at the chart)
Upon full disclosure... NO SANE MAN would CHOOSE to be a US citizen.
There are TWO classes of citizen in the USA...
Before the 14th Amendment
A citizen of any one of the States of the union, is held to be, and called a citizen of the United States, although
technically and abstractly there is no such thing. To conceive a citizen of the United States who is not a citizen
of some one of the States, is totally foreign to the idea, and inconsistent with the proper construction and common
understanding of the expression as used in the Constitution, which must be deduced from its various other provisions. The object then to be attained,
by the exercise of the power of naturalization, was to make citizens of the respective States. - Ex Parte Knowles, 5 Cal. 300 (1855)
It is true, every person, and every class and description of persons, who were at the time of the adoption of the Constitution recognized as citizens
in the several States, became also citizens of this new political body; but none other; it was formed by them, and for them and their posterity, but
for no one else. And the personal rights and privileges guarantied [sic] to citizens of this new sovereignty were intended to embrace those only who
were then members of the several state communities, or who should afterwards, by birthright or otherwise, become members, according to the provisions
of the Constitution and the principles on which it was founded. - Dred Scott v. Sandford, 19 How. 393, 404 (1856)
... [F]or it is certain, that in the sense in which the word "Citizen" is used in the federal Constitution, "Citizen of each State," and "Citizen
of the United States," are convertible terms; they mean the same thing; for "the Citizens of each State are entitled to all Privileges and
Immunities of Citizens in the several States," and "Citizens of the United States are, of course, Citizens of all the United States. - 44 Maine 518
(1859), Hathaway, J. dissenting
After the 14th Amendment
"There are, then, under our republican form of government, two classes of citizens, one of the United States and one of the state". Gardina v. Board
of Registrars of Jefferson County, 160 Ala. 155; 48 So. 788 (1909)
"The governments of the United States and of each state of the several states are distinct from one another. The rights of a citizen under one may be
quite different from those which he has under the other".
Colgate v. Harvey, 296 U.S. 404; 56 S.Ct. 252 (1935)
"...rights of national citizenship as distinct from the fundamental or natural rights inherent in state citizenship". Madden v. Kentucky, 309 U.S.
83: 84 L.Ed. 590 (1940)
"There is a difference between privileges and immunities belonging to the citizens of the United States as such, and those belonging to the citizens
of each state as such". Ruhstrat v. People, 57 N.E. 41 (1900)
"We have in our political system a government of the United States and a government of each of the several States. Each one of these governments is
distinct from the others, and each has citizens of it's own..."
United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)
"It is quite clear, then, that there is a citizenship of the United States, and a citizenship of a state, which are distinct from each other and
which depend upon different characteristics or circumstances in the individual". Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. (16 Wall.) 36; 21 L.Ed. 394 (1873)
US citizens have ONE Right:
"The only absolute and unqualified right of a United States citizen is to residence within the territorial boundaries of the United States,"
US vs. Valentine 288 F. Supp. 957(D.P.R.1968)
US citizens have no access to the Constitution:
"The privileges and immunities clause of the 14th Amendment protects very few rights because it neither incorporates the Bill of Rights, nor protects
all rights of individual citizens. Instead this provision protects only those rights peculiar to being a citizen of the federal government; it does
not protect those rights which relate to state citizenship."
Jones v. Temmer, 89 F. Supp 1226 (1993)
"The right to trial by jury in civil cases, guaranteed by the 7th Amendment and the right to bear arms guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment have been
distinctly held not to be privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States guaranteed by the 14th Amendment and in effect the same decision
was made in respect of the guarantee against prosecution, except by indictment of a grand jury, contained in the 5th Amendment and in respect of the
right to be confronted with witnesses, contained in the 6th Amendment it was held that the indictment, made indispensable by the 5th Amendment, and
trial by jury guaranteed by the 6th Amendment, were not privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States, as those words were used in the
14th Amendment. We conclude, therefore, that the exemption from compulsory self-incrimination is not a privilege or immunity of National citizenship
guaranteed by this clause of the 14th Amendment." Twining v. New Jersey, 211 US 78, 98-99
"The persons declared to be citizens are, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The
evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely
subject..." Elk v. Wilkins, 112 US 94, 101, 102 (1884)