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reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 09:03 AM by Billmeister
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Idi Amin was a self-procalimed Muslim, but have never seen or heard that Ben Ali was. That is why I made this thread, he made it a top priority to rid his country of all radical Islamists, even making the Islamic political party illegal.



reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 09:12 AM by toc1013
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Hence the fact that he's not allowed to engage in politics in the country. Ben Ali cracked down on extremist partys because he was a dictator; which means any and all dissent would have been crushed. Just because he ran his country differently from the Saudis doesn't necessarily make them enemies. As I said before, we've learned before that the Kingdom is more than willing to shelter crooked Muslim elites. I also wouldn't be surprise if his stay came with a price.


reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 09:21 AM by Billmeister
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Yes, the Saudi royals claim to be Wahhabists, but that does not necessarily make it so, perhaps the "brotherhood of dictators" is stronger than religion. (Or perhaps the cost of admission as you rightfully point out.)

By the fact that he is not allowed to participate in politics, you do mean in Tunisia correct?
Because it is a moot point for Saudi Arabia, as it is a kingdom, and only members of the royal family or their appointed religious leaders can participate.

the Billmeister


reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 10:05 AM by Billmeister
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Thanks for the clarification.

In any event, we can rest assured that his living conditions are certainly well above those of the citizens of both Tunisia and Saudi Arabia. (Heck, most of the civilized world!)

I would add that the protection against potential extradition plays a substantial role in the decision to choose Saudi Arabia as a haven.

the Billmeister


reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 10:30 AM by bigfatfurrytexan
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Because it has nothing to do with ideals. it has to do with money. Always and forever, money.


reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 10:45 AM by Billmeister
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
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Because it has nothing to do with ideals. it has to do with money. Always and forever, money.


Ahh, a person who sees the world the way I do.

From the outset of this thread, the underlying idea was, and remains, the hypocrisy of the Saudi Kingdom, which has once again been brought to light.

the Billmeister


reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 12:11 PM by bigfatfurrytexan
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The Saudi's, like any US Televangelist, love their religion only insofar as it will generate a revenue stream for them. In their case, they use it to keep their people under their thumbs. The hypocrisy starts with their sexual, partying lifestyle (while they enforce Sharia law on their citizens).

The worst thing that could happen to them would be for alternative energy to come around cheaper. At that point, the would all lose their heads while the people starved in the streets.


reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 05:57 PM by Rockpuck
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Why do you think religion has anything to do with anything in the middle east?

It's about $ .. they worship $ like the rest of us. They might tell the ignorant unemployed citizens they love some Allah, but the God in the Middle East like the God everywhere is $. Ben has $, Saudi's have $ .. they are friends.


reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 06:05 PM by Billmeister
Originally posted by Rockpuck
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Why do you think religion has anything to do with anything in the middle east?

It's about $ .. they worship $ like the rest of us. They might tell the ignorant unemployed citizens they love some Allah, but the God in the Middle East like the God everywhere is $. Ben has $, Saudi's have $ .. they are friends.


I definitely do not disagree.
It is especially true in an autocracy like Saudi Arabia, because there is no possibility of elections, they don't even have to try to hide their utter hypocrisy.
But you are correct that my OP did insinuate that I believed otherwise.

the Billmeister



reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 08:28 PM by Rockpuck
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Easiest way to judge the Saudies... watch the "Royal Family".. not the one you see on TV making out with GWB, but the massive extended family across the country that literally number into the thousands.

Secret police guarding whore houses
Teens going to raves, drinking (which only the rich can afford in SA)
Frivolous sex.. drug use, American and Euro pop music

Spoiled brats acting like.. spoiled brats. They all receive royalty payments from Oil sales, the King dishes out a huge portion to the extended family in the form of a monthly allowance.

I'm not judging their lack of religion, I myself am Deist, but their subjects few them as a saintly family. Openly anyways.
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