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Will Cigarettes Be Made Illegal in the Near Future?

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posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 03:44 AM
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Im a smoker, it is my choice to smoke, i do not smoke around people, unless there smokers. I personally dont think they should ban it, fast food probably kills more or close to it every year, and they wont ban that lol.

Just do like in canada tax the # out of it to pay what ever the governemnt whats to waste it on, cause it aint in the hospitals, schools, or roads lol...




posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 03:52 AM
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This is not making sense. They ban natural remedies which are good for us, poison our food, poison the water poison the air, poison us with vaccines, radiation from airport scanners - and they want to ban SMOKING? There's something wierd about this.



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 03:58 AM
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I totally agree with you. Here in Spain they have just banned smoking in Bars. So all the smokers are standing outside in the chilly January nights puffing away and inside the Bar there is hardly anybody. This ban has come at a very bad time for Bar-owners as the financial crisis was already hitting casual drinkers who are staying at home. It makes me wonder what "our betters" think they are doing. The World is in financial sheet and here they are making it more difficult to smoke and therefore reducing Government-income and badly affecting what is, in Spain, a big source of employment. Bars employ cooks and cleaners as well as Bar staff. I don`t smoke myself but I don`t like people`s freedoms being eroded by faceless suits in Brussels.

The good news (if it is true) is that people in Greece are already rebelling against this Draconian Law and smoking anyway. Electronic cigarettes I think are the way forward. No smoke is produced by their use so the Law does not cover them. I have just started selling them in my small town and have had quite a bit of interest - a lot of it from Dads whose wives wont let them smoke in their apartment



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 04:37 AM
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I myself would LOVE a ban to do with ciggerettes... But not with the product itself, but rather with all the added chemicals. The stuff they add to those are unbelieveable... And the nicotine is so addictive that I do not think I could ever give up.

But really despite I have not smoked marijuana apart from a few times on occasion when I was younger, I have never seen any doper acting as violent or disruptive as a drunk. And at those few times I did (smoking dope) my vision wasn't as distorted or 'closed' off, but quite the opposite. Which makes me wonder the exact reasoning behind alcohol being legal and marijuana being illegal.

But anyway I went off topic, but honestly id say do not worry about cigarettes becoming illegal, but rather more expensive in the future. They just love to tax the 'luxury items', like cigarettes because not only are they 'bad for us' but 'you should of known better, and since your addicted you will pay the extra or have a hell of a time quitting'.

In my opinion this is why all the anti smoking methods involve still taking in more nicotine. If you quit your lucky but without the patches or etc, still rely on them for a daily basis or just go back to smoking.

Sorry to just 'blah blah' on. These are my own personnel opinions.
edit on 20-1-2011 by Aoxoa because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 05:04 AM
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Yes, that's exactly what we need to do: Criminalize cigarettes and suddenly have millions upon millions of nic-fitting citizens. I'm sure that will go brilliantly lol



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 05:17 AM
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i wonder why underground cigarettes have not appeared on the cash-only market. i enjoyed smokes at good prices via mail from an Indian Reservation in America for a while. Uncle Sam ruined that by tracking down the sellers customers and demanding tax money for each carton purchased.

Big Tobacco in America saw the writing on the wall years ago. Now they exploit developing countries where millions of potential customers await them. It's good to be the king.



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by korath
They should be. They should ban them for a year. Once people go without them for that long they would probably give them up for good. If anyone goes back to them after that, well you had your chance. New smokers aside, it would be interesting to see how many people quit by removing the temptation for 12 months.


You are wrong. I know many people who have quit for 5 years or more and started back up. I have a friend who quit 2 years ago but is still struggling and sneaks a cigarette once every couple of months. I quit for 9 months with all 3 of my pregnancy's only to start back up again.



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by wcitizen
This is not making sense. They ban natural remedies which are good for us, poison our food, poison the water poison the air, poison us with vaccines, radiation from airport scanners - and they want to ban SMOKING? There's something wierd about this.


Nothing weird about this just the most effect and oldest trick in the book the simple misdirect. Say "We're going to ban smoking." and presto for obvious opposite reasons the smokers get mad f ie: we smoke its our right etc. While the non smokers get mad as well, mainly for the reason that this will never happen and yet the wish it would because it would make the world healthier etc.

All the while as we fight about health and choice they are destroying these very things by doing exactly what you stated in your post.

Genius isn't it?

Also the take them away for a year argument is absurd. I was incarcerated for a year about 5 years back and before I got out of the site of the jail I was at a convenience store purchasing a lovely pack of Camel Menthols, so at least in my case that was an epic fail.
edit on 20/1/11 by TrowaBarton because: To add an additional point.

edit on 20/1/11 by TrowaBarton because: nm



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 05:24 AM
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I honestly can not see smoking tobacco being made illegal. I just don't think it would pass.

Plus, there is even a push ( albeit a small one) to legalize weed. Hell, there was even a vote in California. Though people are getting stricter about wear you can and cannot smoke, I just don't think they will ban smoking.



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
only idiots in Washington come up with this plan.
Did you know u can buy marijuana cheaper than
tobacco ???

yes, go ahead mr. gov man.
make them illegal.

the price will drop
and u won't get a
cut anymore.

people are still gonna buy
cigs no matter what idiotic
laws u enact.


Let me ask this question....

Do you think the Government gets a cut from the marijuana trade?

If cigs were made illegal, I think they would actually make more money than they do now from taxing the product. They would make money from fines as well as court cost. Of course this is the great US of A, so you will probably also be required to attend a class telling you all about the dangers of smoking... at your cost of course. I agree the price would probably drop... but rest assured, the Government would still find a way to get it's cut.



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by FeeBanks

Will Cigarettes Be Made Illegal in the Near Future?


www.alternet.org

The battle over cigarettes is heating up -- and the momentum to criminalize tobacco smoking continues to build in the United States and around the world.
(visit the link for the full news article)



There is no way your societies would ever ban cigarettes, unless they introduced a new even more harmful self-abusing substance.

Then society would ensure the citizen-slaves were fully addicted to abusing themselves with this new substance.


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posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 06:37 AM
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I think it far more likely that cigarettes won't be banned - perhaps more heavily taxed. Bottom line is that if the "government" wants to eliminate smoking they'd drop smokers from receiving health insurance benefits.
We can't afford enough jail space to house weed users, much less tobacco smokers so criminalizing use would be out of the question. We've already seen workplace smoking banned and employers refusing to hire smokers.I recently heard of a town here in Texas where the public hospital drug tested an emergency room patient (without consent) and refused medical treatment because of a positive pot test.
Another social control mechanism has already been put into place as the FDA can regulate tobacco products so it might just require a prescription for cigarettes in the future. A decade ago in New Zealand the only place you could buy cigarettes was a pharmacy, no prescription necessary, free disgusting looks from almost everybody.

ganjoa



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 07:51 AM
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If everyone quit smoking, the government would not have a scapegoat for cancer anymore. Cancer rates are the highest in history, while those who still smoke are a niche market no where near the amount compared to 50 years or even 100 years ago. While almost no one smokes anymore, why have cancer rates done the opposite and risen instead?
edit on 1/20/2011 by LordBaskettIV because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by TrowaBarton

Originally posted by wcitizen
This is not making sense. They ban natural remedies which are good for us, poison our food, poison the water poison the air, poison us with vaccines, radiation from airport scanners - and they want to ban SMOKING? There's something wierd about this.


Nothing weird about this just the most effect and oldest trick in the book the simple misdirect. Say "We're going to ban smoking." and presto for obvious opposite reasons the smokers get mad f ie: we smoke its our right etc. While the non smokers get mad as well, mainly for the reason that this will never happen and yet the wish it would because it would make the world healthier etc.

All the while as we fight about health and choice they are destroying these very things by doing exactly what you stated in your post.

Genius isn't it?

Also the take them away for a year argument is absurd. I was incarcerated for a year about 5 years back and before I got out of the site of the jail I was at a convenience store purchasing a lovely pack of Camel Menthols, so at least in my case that was an epic fail.
edit on 20/1/11 by TrowaBarton because: To add an additional point.

edit on 20/1/11 by TrowaBarton because: nm


I understand the distraction and keep people fighting strategy, it's just that if they want to poison us, why ban a poison? Why not use something else. I do take your point, but something isn't resonating with me with this one yet!



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 08:19 AM
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i don't care either way, if they ban it, good, i will have to quit, but this time it will be easier because i will not have easy access to them when i am finding it hard.

if they don't then stop moaning about them.

the only thing that bothers me is how people are persecuted for using a legal substance, if it is banned and i still smoke, then the persecution is justified.

smoking does cause harm so i am in favor of banning it rather than persecuting people for using it legally. but understand that while ever it is legal i am going to keep on buying it, i am addicted.

if it is banned then we can move on to the next group of people that they choose to target.

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posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Isn't the answer to this obviously no, and for 1 simple reason. Money. No not even tax money. The money the tobacco industry has funneled into politics since day 1. As long as we elect corruptible officials, this will never come to pass.

sure you can mention the tax money they get, which is a lot, but you have to balance that against the medical costs for those smokers later in life.

i am a smoker and i'd rather them ban the deadly cocktail they add to it. Have you ever smoked pure, dried tobacco leaves? Of course you haven't. It's so different that a store bought cancer stick you can't even imagine it. I smoke a lot of pot, and I tell you I got high of tobacco.

Why is booze legal and pot not?

Easy, first booze is a depressant, win for the government there.
Second, pot is so easy to produce it would be next to impossible for them to produce a product of similar quality and PRICE. They'd have to tax it, and produce it, which anyone with a closet can do pretty cheap. No receipt, no tax.

As well the cannabis plant according to most studies does have some medical benefits for some people, and big pharma can't be having any of that.

Cigarettes cause cancer. Treating, not curing, cancer is a billion dollar a year industry.

Sadly, our world does revolve around money.



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Smokes are an appetite suppresant..so its funny how Obesity is going up as smoking is going down..In banning Tobacco the phrase comes to mind "That the road to hell is paved with good intentions"..Its also the only thing that halts/slows Altzhiemers.
Its not difficult to grow and process.If they push anymore Tobacco clubs will start and that will be the end of it.



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
I honestly can not see smoking tobacco being made illegal. I just don't think it would pass.

Plus, there is even a push ( albeit a small one) to legalize weed. Hell, there was even a vote in California. Though people are getting stricter about wear you can and cannot smoke, I just don't think they will ban smoking.


all together.. If they do ban smoking, it won't stop me.Haha



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Many people said the same thing when the state governments started mandating seatbelts essentially telling people you're too dumb to know what's best for you so we'll make that decision kindly thank you!



posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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Um.......Well it may not stop you but depending on your area if smoking is banned then the availability of cigarettes will be around the same as that or marijuana. Which means that there will be days where you will not smoke at all which will probably reduce your mental and obviously physical addiction to them so all in all it will be a good thing regardless of whether you think so now or not.



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