WW3 - Close Examination, page 2

Originally posted by d1k

Originally posted by Blackout
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Where do you get your kill ratios from? Nothing in your link really confirms anything you are saying. You cannot compare the F22 with the Tiger 2 when you do not know the capabilities of the F22.

And my post was about the Tiger from WW1. If the Americans/Brits could outfit their tanks with a bigger main turret to take out the Tiger from WW1 I'm pretty sure it would have been more so the fact considering they would have learned from WW1. I also have never even heard of the "Tiger 2" being a force at all from WW2. It was always the great stories of WW1 before the Americans/Brits found a way to pack a bigger punch and take them out.

[edit on 13-7-2004 by d1k]

Perhaps you didn't closely read my first post, but I did cite the source and quote I extracted the kill ratio information. Same site, quote is on the top next to the portrait.

Also, you're history is mixed up. There was no Tiger tank in WW1! There was a Sturmpanzerwagen as a way to counter British tanks, but nothing more than that. Even if there was a WW1 Tiger tank, there's no way it could have been countered by fitting a larger main turret because tanks at that time HAD NO TANK SHELL TURRETS. They were ALL machine gun tanks and machine gun tanks were even used up to WW2 in the invasion of Poland (with the Panzer I and II). As for the Sturmpanzerwagen and Tiger tank, here's pictures of the two (you can obviously tell that the Sturmpanzerwagen is a really early tank):

Sturmpanzerwagen
Tiger

Once again, you're history's all mixed up. There was no WW1 tank combat, you can't kill tanks with machine guns. Also, you shouldn't be arguing if you haven't heard of the Tiger II because that was the most powerful tank during WW2 and 10 years afterwards. It was the father of modern tanks, the Allies copied it as well as they could.

With your Americans/Brits packing a bigger punch, go look at statistics and quotes. In North Africa, a British officer noted that they were "outnumbered and equipped with inferior technology." American tanks were crap, for lack of better words. Soviet tanks would have massacred American tanks at that time (specifically the T-34 vs Sherman M4). I'm under the impression that most of the American public is brainwashed into thinking America was always this powerful. You must understand that their power was a direct result of successful imitation of Nazi technology (atom bomb, rocketry, etc.) and the fall of the second greatest imitator, Soviet Russia. The truth is, American technology was worth nothing to the Nazis with maybe an exception of their bazookas. As for the Brits, they weren't much better off. France fell, they were practically doomed before America came to their aid. Their empire had basically collapsed and they were still recovering from WW1.

Anyway, go read up on history and go find me a link of the Tiger in WW1. As for the F22, sure I might not know all of its capabilities but I sure know the Allies did not know Third Reich tank capabilities either until the war drew to an end.