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is jesus, god?

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posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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just a quick one. many christians claim that jesus is god. but in exodus 33: 20 it says, no man can look at him without dieing. so if jesus is god, when anyone who looked at him, would die. so if no one died when they looked at jesus, so jesus must not be god then.




posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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Jesus was the Son of God.
I believe in that line they are referring to God..not Jesus...



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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No



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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Jesus is the Son of God. Not God. He was never meant to be deified.
I don't think he would approve.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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Where did you get the idea that jesus was god? There are three entitys to god " The Father The son and the holy ghost" They reign over his kingdom, The father However is The god, Jesus has allways been his mortal son.




posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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is jesus, god?


Thank you for using lower case letters...





Actually, you are close to the bulls-eye...they are one in the same: Fabricated


So, in manner of speaking - yes, jesus is god...





posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Yes, Jesus is God the Son, the second person of the holy trinity. He took on our human nature, and in the flesh others of course could look on him and not be killed by this.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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There's so many threads where exactly this question has been discussed.

You should have started a thread "Is Mohamed, Allah?"



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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Jesus has the spirit of God. We all have the spirit of God within us. The spirit is love. Jesus showed himself to me once as peace. The return of Jesus was then assumed to be parallel to the return of peace on earth. Jesus looks like a person with brilliant light surrounding him. That light is the love in his heart. God is just the light without form but higher up in the ranks than any being in the universe.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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Matthew, Mark, and Luke, authors of the first three Gospels, believed that Jesus was not God (see Mark 10:18 and Matthew 19:17). They believed that he was the son of God in the sense of a righteous person. Many others too, are similarly called sons of God (see Matthew 23:1-9).

if he is the son of god then it would beg the question why ?

jesus was made from a virgin mother no father , miracle ? i can see why they would call him son of god

adam was made with no mother nor father would he not be considered more the son of god ?

jesus knew he would die on the cross and did it anyway . would this be suicide ?

god knew jesus would die and sent his 'son" anyway ? god sending his son on a suicide mission ?

is this al quieda or divine ?

IF there is a god , i see no reason for him to take a human form nor have a son brother mother sister etc



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Gary13
just a quick one. many christians claim that jesus is god. but in exodus 33: 20 it says, no man can look at him without dieing. so if jesus is god, when anyone who looked at him, would die. so if no one died when they looked at jesus, so jesus must not be god then.


Its his dad that is GOD he is SON. Hence non can communicate with dad but son!



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by Ariel
Yes, Jesus is God the Son, the second person of the holy trinity. He took on our human nature, and in the flesh others of course could look on him and not be killed by this.


Precisely. The light of love of Jesus is so intense that we as humans could not be able to stand in it in our physical bodies. I once had an angel visit me that shared the same type of light (love) that was unbearable to withstand. We are approaching a time where this light will be commonplace.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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I'm sure the concept of the trinity will be used as an excuse which negates the notion of Christian monotheism in itself. Should someone argue that the trinity is three iterations of the one deity then we're back to the OP's point.

The Old Testament also says eating pork is against God and the adulterous women should be stoned to death.

The Christian Bible has too many holes in it to be holy.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Gary13
just a quick one. many christians claim that jesus is god. but in exodus 33: 20 it says, no man can look at him without dieing. so if jesus is god, when anyone who looked at him, would die. so if no one died when they looked at jesus, so jesus must not be god then.


No Jesus is not GOD, Jesus was a prophet, he said so himself that he is a messenger, a warner. He said so himself that there is only one GOD and that GOD is his GOD and everyone else is GOD. He said so himself many times that there is only one GOD.

People who claim he is the son of GOD, and that GOD is the father etc, that corrupt belief was copied from the corrupt romans who used Christianity for politics.

The funny thing is, many verses in the Bible calls people other than Jesus GODs son.
So it is a huge misconception, and corruption to be honest because it was used for politics. Jesus is not GOD' son.
If you want the verses which backs up my claims, please let me know.
edit on 19-1-2011 by reatarded because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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If there is a god, he resides outside the space-time dimensions. I think.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by seedofchucky
Matthew, Mark, and Luke, authors of the first three Gospels, believed that Jesus was not God (see Mark 10:18 and Matthew 19:17). They believed that he was the son of God in the sense of a righteous person. Many others too, are similarly called sons of God (see Matthew 23:1-9).

if he is the son of god then it would beg the question why ?

jesus was made from a virgin mother no father , miracle ? i can see why they would call him son of god

adam was made with no mother nor father would he not be considered more the son of god ?

jesus knew he would die on the cross and did it anyway . would this be suicide ?

god knew jesus would die and sent his 'son" anyway ? god sending his son on a suicide mission ?

is this al quieda or divine ?

IF there is a god , i see no reason for him to take a human form nor have a son brother mother sister etc


God himself is without form. Jesus descend from the evolutionary ranks of consciousness in order to share with humanity divine wisdom and offer a way of living. He was human in body, but his spirit was evolved. We are evolving too. One day, you will look at me and I you and see a great light emanating from my body. There exists a kind of love in the Universe that is so ecstatic and so beautiful and so intense that a normal human cannot withstand for more than 5 seconds. I was fortunate to experience this love firsthand in the presence of an angel who shines with radiant light. If I would have stayed in the angels presence any longer than the 3-5 seconds that I did, I can see how it is possible that I would have been obliterated, simply because my human body was never designed to contain such a powerful energy. Although it is unbearable, it is the highest imaginable pleasure anyone could possibly conceive. Even drugs like Ecstacy fall short in comparison of what it feels like.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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If you read the bible you see that Jesus is both the Son of God and God at the same time. In John 10:30 Jesus says "I and the Father are one.” He is God in the flesh, what man cannot look at is God in "spirit" or... supernatural form.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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Have you seen god to know that ?

How do you psycho anaylize god ?
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Jesus descend from the evolutionary ranks of consciousness in order to share with humanity divine wisdom and offer a way of living"

evolutionary ranks eh ? how you know about the ranking system ?


Why would god play all these hiding games ?

Why not write the commandments in the sky for the whole world to see one time ?

all this deception all this hiding all these suicide missions seem to be the work of poets philosphers and tryants not the work of all almighty "creator"

clearly jesus god link is in the bible i showed bible verses why don't you show some verses to back up your claims?



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by aletheia
If you read the bible you see that Jesus is both the Son of God and God at the same time. In John 10:30 Jesus says "I and the Father are one.” He is God in the flesh, what man cannot look at is God in "spirit" or... supernatural form.


Yea the one quote taken out of context




posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 04:06 PM
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I can't get over how many people have never read the Nag Hammadi Texts, these were discovered in Egypt in 1945. They are the most acurate teachings of Jesus and Mary and the Disciples, because they have only been translate by 2 translators. All the Christians I try to tell about this refuse to even read them because thy are not in the Bible. They do contradict the Bible in so many ways is probably why thy were thrown out. It tell that Jesus and Judah were twins. Jesus even calls him the second Massiah, It is online. All twins born in acient times were called the sons of God, because it was rare. I am a Christian and do not believe we should stop searching for truth. Link to Nag Hammadi Library

www.gnosis.org...




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