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Meet The New Boss: China Owns The United States

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posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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Nice thread DD,

This article concerns me on a couple of levels.

1. The debt is crazy
2. China is buying this debt even though the states is up sh*t creek

Now the only reason i can think of is because the US plans a huge world war just before it collapses. Think about it, if you owed someone more money that you can ever ever ever imagine to pay back...whats your only way out?

Destroy China...




posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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I find this annoying as well. The issue revolving around raising the debt ceiling is coming up. I know its gonna hurt, but I dont think we should raise it at all. We need to get spending under control. While extremely painful in the short term, I think long term we would be better off.


I kinda agree with you, but if Americans weren't that greedy they wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. It is their greed that drove them this far, and it is their greed that holds them back from the solution.

They would rather punish their own innocent children who will inherit this burden, no doubt, rather than fixing the problem now with burden of their own.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 02:48 PM
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I didnt borrow a dime from china. The anerican greedys called government owe china.let them go work it off. The government stole so much from us citizens, and know they think I owe china...NO WAY....how to we make a pe point we haveetition on this rhedoric? we need to do this and fast before we pay and pay and pay to the point we have nothing left to hand to them. ANother pizz me off article...



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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I owe china nothing I wont bow to them Know what irks me the most? i didnt fall prey to the real estate hype. I didnt borrow a dime.I owe only my mortgage ( almost payed off after some 17 years) --utilities- food each month. I have an old clunker of a truck, and wont exchange for an upgrade because I wont borrow in these times, heck I wont borrow in good times. Because the old clunker still runs. I live a simple life, I owe so little. And i dont owe china a dime...To you the scandelous government pay your own dept, leave me out of it...



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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Let the upper 1% who keeps sending our jobs over there to increase thier bottom line pay it.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 02:58 PM
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I msut admit you are mostly right. People saw easy loans and ran to the bank to get them never considering the price of an unattainable loan, destroying the future of the young. I saw so many friends and family do this, tried to find the words to stop them, but could not because they wanted bigger, and more stuff....it makes me sick to realize I suffer for the things i did not do. It is so unfair. but, I am proud of me for not falling into the greed trap. I can sleep at night knowing I didnt destroy our youth our economy our life..



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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China doesn't own the US.

The US National Debt is at $14 trillion.

China owns around $900 billion of that debt.

Whats that, around 7%?

Japan owns almost just as much, over $800 billion.

The UK owns almost $400 billion.

Total debt held by foreign countries is around $4 trillion. Thats not even half of the US national debt.

The Federal Reserve holds the majority of US debt.

The Boss is still the same Boss. The Bank owns the US.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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It's a shame that those who fail to learn the lessons of history are condemned to repeat it.

Who does learn well from history are the Powers that Be, and they have made some adaptations this time around in how they are presenting China.

In the 1930's the rich American Industrialists and Oligarchs publicly praised the effeciency of the industry of the Fascist States of Italy and Germany. Hitler was twice named Time's man of the year.

They publicly praised these systems of governance often and frequently and clearly wished for these new principles to be adopted here in America.

As they well should because the American Oligarchs had heavily funded and played a crucial hand in developing the businesses that were thriving in the Fascist States.

However one thing about America and Americans in general is they tend to reject out of hand any overt attempt to change the principles of the system of governance.

So they Oligarchs had little luck in convincing America to go down the fascist path that they very much would have like it too.

Today China is very much like Italy and Germany were, that is to say the beneficiaries of massive international corporate investment.

China's transformation was accomplished by a whole lot of money and building by the Powers that Be, who as always are looking to create the perfect proto type state somewhere that would be the most beneficial to their corporate needs and rule.

China simply is the latest example of that.

They know they have no chance at selling Americans on the idea that a hybrid of Communism, Captilism, Fascism and Socialism is the system we would all love to live under, but they truly would love us all to live under it, otherwise American and European Corporations would not have invested so much money in China. They love the system, and they are smart enough to know we don't.

So rather than appeal to us as they did in the 30's through direct appeal, by singing the praises of a system that we ultimately rejected if for no other reason than that it was not the one we were born and raised in, this time they are going to let it seem like China is taking over us, and well there is nothing we can do about that because we owe it money.

In fact we don't owe it a cent, because we didn't suggest or tell our politicians to borrow money from China, in fact we haven't borrowed money from China, we have borrowed money from China's banks, many of whom are owned by the same exact people who own Europe and America's banks.

So this is yet another area where I feel compellled to call Alex Jones the fear mongering fraud who does more to help the New World Order than hurt it, through either his wilfull misrepresentation or his gross supidity that seems to always prevent him from connecting the dots.

China is nothing but the same old International Elite, in one of there many different guises, manipulating us all, as they always do, into ultimately going along with what they want in an atmosphere seeded with confusion and fear.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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Supposedly, china has "owned" us for many years in more ways than one. They have had spies in every facet of our governemnt for many years. They probably know all of our secrets anyways. But in the sense of them owning all of our treasury notes, yes....it seems like China and THE FED own us at the moment. Hopefully, China will not be turning in their bonds anytime soon for otherwise we could see catastrophe here in the USA....a true depression of sorts....



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Who does learn well from history are the Powers that Be, and they have made some adaptations this time around in how they are presenting China

China's transformation was accomplished by a whole lot of money and building by the Powers that Be,

China is nothing but the same old International Elite, in one of there many different guises, manipulating us all, as they always do, into ultimately going along with what they want in an atmosphere seeded with confusion and fear.

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agreed. but there is more to this. check this out.

The American Empire is in decline, and is utterly bankrupt; however, its elites, which are in fact more global than national in their ideology and orientation, are seeking to not simply have American power disappear, or be replaced with Chinese power, but rather to use American power to construct the apparatus of a new global structure of authority, and that the American Empire will simply fade into a global structure. This is a delicate balancing act for the global elite, and requires integrating China and the other dominant powers within this system. It also inherently implies the ultimate domination of the ‘global south’ (Africa, Latin America, and parts of Asia). This is an entirely new process being undertaken. Empires have risen and fallen throughout all of human history. This time, the fall of the American Empire is taking place within the context of the rise of a totally new kind of power: global in scope, structure and authority. This will no doubt be one of the defining geopolitical events of the next several decades

the rise of the East,” in particular with China and India, we see the center of global power moving from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Several commentators for years have been analyzing and discussing this issue; however, the fact that power has been centered in the Atlantic for the past 500 years means that it will not be so easily moved to the Pacific. In fact, the Western powers not only acknowledge the rise of the East, but that the East has risen because they have allowed it to and aided it in this process. The Western powers have done this not out of some benevolent design, but because the organized intellectual powers of the West (namely, the principle think tanks and banking interests) have sought to create a perfect global system of governance, one in which power does not sway from nation to nation, or West to East, but rather that power is centralized globally. This is obviously a long-term project, and will not (if ever) be realized for several more decades. Yet, it is through crises – economic, political, and social – that this process of global governance can be rapidly accelerated.

read the full article.


www.globalresearch.ca...



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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odd, that we exchange goods and bank with a communist government.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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the US dollar is linked to your federal reserve so in that sense a private company is in debt to china and if and a big IF you seperated from the reserve you would leave those **** banker with your debt ? am i right on this



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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FINALLY someone shows the figures! THANK YOU! China owns a little over 7% of the US debt. Last figure I saw was 7.8% That does not translate to China owning the US. Get a grip, people!



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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If they own the US, they better learn to speak spanish



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 08:15 PM
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Can I just pay my 12k and be my own boss?
Seriously this really changes nothing in my book. They need us just as much as we need them. Who else is going to buy all their cheap junk?



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by prexparte
I didnt borrow a dime from china. The anerican greedys called government owe china.let them go work it off.


Hell, I'd just be glad to see them pay their taxes! It doesn't take much to make me happy.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 08:32 PM
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Thats not right.

The US government, not the Federal Reserve, is in debt to the People's Republic of China.

China has purchased over time about $900 billion in US debt from the Treasury Department.

Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve holds trillions of dollars in US debt from the Treasury Dept.

The Federals Reserve's shareholders are banks based in the US. Some are branches of foreign banks, but the branch is based in the US.

The top ten as of 2010 are: I went ahead and included assets too.
1. Bank of America $2.2 trillion
2. JP Morgan Chase $2.1 trillion
3. Citigroup $1.9 trillion
4. Wells Fargo $1.2 trillion
5. Goldman Sachs $910 billion
6. Morgan Stanley $840 billion
7. Metlife $490 billion
8. Barclays (British) $2 trillion
9. Taunus (Deutsche Bank- German) $1.5 trillion
10. HSBC (British) $2.4 trillion

To put this in perspective, The central bank of China, the People's Bank, has $2.4 trillion in assets.

Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase together almost have double the assets as the PRC central bank.

As Proto said above, this is Alex Jones fearmongering. (We agreed on something!)

The Banks are in control.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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good form so how much is the US in debt to the fed reserve
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posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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we all have a choice not to buy chinese ant you will find far superior products from doing so so heres your challenge do one day without the look at the labels we gotta start somewhere

when you buy something if you want it to last a year or two buy chinese if you got some class go native
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posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by nonetruegod
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good form so how much is the US in debt to the fed reserve
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The Fed held around $6 trillion last year, it should be higher by now. I would bet the current number is around $7. They control the highest percentage of any holder.



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