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Topic started on 10-7-2004 @ 09:27 PM by The Astral City
Okay, as most everyone already knows I really don't agree with the fundamentalist Christian version of the "End Times" but there are many threads about it so I'll share some observations I've had regarding it:

My main observation is regarding the idea that the devout will be lead astray by satan before the end. Personally I believe that the passage just goes to show how any reformation or schism could be seen as a sign of the end of the world, but it makes me think about some of the things being said by the conservative Christians lately.

A non-denominational very conservative chruch in my area reciently had a large "God Hates Homosexuality" (with a strong slur in place of homosexuality) banner above the entrance to their church until the police made them take it down. As a philosophy of religions major I find it funny that someone would think that an omni-benevolent god could be capable of hate, but that's what made me wonder. Do these people really think that god hates homsexuals? Sounds a little strayed to me.

Another thing that didn't quite sound Christian to me, and was regarding the issue of homosexuality, was when Mark Creech, a columnist at Agape Press
www.agapepress.org... said that homosexuals were raping America. It was very hate filled and sounded inspired more by anger and hate than by God.

The issue does not just include angry rants and slurs against homosexuals, I believe that some ministries are just in the business for the money, and probably the same for some Christian Rock bands and such.

I think some have gotten so zealous in their defense of their religion and trying to convert people that they have lost sight of the actual teachings. I personally don't think this means the end is comming, like I said that passage could be applied to any change in the faith, not the end of the world.

So what does everyone else think, is this a sign of the "End Times" or just some people that are misguided?

Blessed Be
~Astral


reply posted on 11-7-2004 @ 09:42 PM by Lucifer
Is it not obvious to everyone that each is their own in their own mind? Without getting into the infinite components and aspects of the common human condition as well as the fact that each one has their own life, experiences and dreams, so, we are ENTITLED to our own view or vision but faith is faith. In yor heart you know why you agree or disagree with those things you do, so, I say: If it feels right it is and if it doesn't it isn't; by and large. (We can turn the cheek as far as refusal of energy to those who have strayed too far such as morally reprehensible criminals)

It has come time that people should stop speaking for God in their current format because since everyone seems to wear masks and not speak the ruth to their friends, family or anyone really, then they may find they have listened to their flesh and not truly used the ears that God gave them.
Therefore, those with the faith in the God in them through the Christ, are it seems now ready for the next stage in the 'game.' To walk as like unto the Christ and quit denying the fact that it IS possible to cast off sins, or evil habits. But even that is not what it is about. If one begins to truly communicate on a very intense spiritual level, (listen and attempt to grow by it) with their creator God, then one will find their eyes opened as once closed and it will appear obvious to avoid those taints that the flesh marked them with. Not to downplay the role of true faith I will offer the metaphor: If you never played or saw a game of baseball or never had it described in any but vague pretenses and made as such a vague opinion on what you thought it was, then actually played and witnessed the game later on, would you not completely revolutionize and reorganize your view of it and how it made you feel?

We must all learn to agree to disagree sometimes but not let it stop there. We must learn civilized debating so as to lessen our emotional attachment as based on opinions regarding issues in the world and humana and collectivate goals that benefit all people. It takes one to know one I heard once, so how can any be an accuser of any other if none are as pure and true to their desinies as they should be? Peace!
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