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reply posted on 19-1-2011 @ 12:40 AM by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by jaynkeel
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Please it would take all of 10 minutes out of anyones time


It will not take 10 minutes to kill this birther conspiracy or any other wacko conspiracy (anti-christ and co) that lies out there about this president. You know this full well.

Don't try to dramatize it.


I am the one dramatizing this birther issue? Ok.

And how many times in the past have people asked to see the long form from prior presidents?


Exactly. But hey, I get it. This one is different to you all. Gotcha!


reply posted on 19-1-2011 @ 12:45 AM by jaynkeel
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OK so you can pull my text and separate it and pull it apart to answer it and treat it like a joke. Gotcha. Now can you answer the questions asked?


reply posted on 19-1-2011 @ 12:46 AM by backinblack
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Exactly. But hey, I get it. This one is different to you all. Gotcha!


It is actually VERY different..
The last few Presidents came from very well known families in the US..
Their births were probably covered by TV, Newspapers and Magazines..
Pretty hard to hide the birth of a Bush or a Kennedy..

Obama came from nowhere..
We know so little of his or his families past..
I doubt his birth raised much attention on MSM like a Bush or a Kennedy..

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reply posted on 19-1-2011 @ 01:03 AM by backinblack
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You choose to believe what is there for the other presidents but not for this one, and you offer little more beyond your own assumption.


Really?? There is abundant information out there on say Bush, Clinton or Kennedy..
There is next to nothing on Obama..
It's all locked away..

Tell ya what SG, we'll take turns..
I'll post information on the Bush family, you post information on the Obama family..
We'll see who runs out of information first...OK??


reply posted on 19-1-2011 @ 01:54 AM by dalloway
Originally posted by backinblack
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post by Southern Guardian



Exactly. But hey, I get it. This one is different to you all. Gotcha!


It is actually VERY different..
The last few Presidents came from very well known families in the US..
Their births were probably covered by TV, Newspapers and Magazines..
Pretty hard to hide the birth of a Bush or a Kennedy..

Obama came from nowhere..
We know so little of his or his families past..
I doubt his birth raised much attention on MSM like a Bush or a Kennedy..

edit on 19-1-2011 by backinblack because: (no reason given)


So what? This is a weak and lame rebuttal and is a textbook example of a strawman argument. Whether or not a president comes from a well known family is irrelevant. Are you saying we should value presidential candidates based on their families and connections? Bill Clinton's boyhood home was a shack compared to those of many of our former presidents. I highly doubt his birth was even announced in his local newspaper, let alone in any of the other major news outlets.

And actually, no, as a matter of fact the last few U.S. presidents did not all come from well known families in the U.S. Much like Obama, several U.S. presidents from the last 60 years were also born into less than notable or wealthy families and their births likely did not make the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, or the CBS evening news. Here's a short summary of some of them (all sourced from Wikipedia):

- Ronald Reagan (40th pres, 1981-1989) Born in a second floor apartment of a commercial building in Tampico. Ilinois.
- Richard Nixon (37th pres, 1969-1974) His early life was full of hardship especially after his family's ranch failed.
- Lyndon B. Johnson (36th pres, 1963-1969) Was born in a small farmhouse near Stonewall, Texas.
(Kennedy was 35th pres, just so you know)
- Dwight D. Eisenhower (34th pres, 1953-1961) To quote from Wikipedia: "Eisenhower's father, David Jacob Eisenhower, was a college-educated engineer but had trouble making a living and the family was poor."

So, you see, NOT very different at all.

And by the way, "Obama came from nowhere" is possibly one of the laziest "birther" attack statements I have ever seen.










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