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Vision: Can WikiLeaks and Social Media Help Fuel Revolutions? The Case of Tunisia

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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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Vision: Can WikiLeaks and Social Media Help Fuel Revolutions? The Case of Tunisia


www.alternet.org

Whether or not the actions of Anonymous and social media activists were having consequential effects, the Tunisian government treated them as though they were. It was discovered that the Tunisian Internet Agency (ATI) was injecting JavaScript into web forms, using it to harvest usernames and passwords. In response to this surveillance operation, Anonymous released a browser add-on that stripped the added JavaScript code, thereby allowing the Tunisian internet users to access Blogger, Facebook, Gmail, Yahoo, and Twitter without exposing their login details.

(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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Man, this is one heck of a subject, and I will try to choose my words carefully here.

But on the surface, this does beg some serious looking into and contemplating...

Is it possible that the information in these cables, along with a grassroots internet networking system among the populace on social network sites is fueling the retaking of the power of the people back into existence? Is the freedom of information overcoming the usual mass media propaganda and manipulation?

Are the masses beginning to say 'no more', and rise up against these out of control governments? Is this truly an overthrow initiated at the cyber-war level? Will there be more of these movements worldwide?

Some interesting times we are living in no matter how one cuts it!

www.alternet.org (visit the link for the full news article)
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Very intriguing subject and great post. S&F


Working in the information industry, I can say with absolute confidence that YES, between a group that has solid proof showing that we're being manipulated by specific people and the social media masses that it's probably very easy. Iran was another example of this if they had a bit more infrastructure in place.

The problem right now is that most people don't know exactly who to blame, and if they do, they aren't sure what they can do about it, if anything at all. The government turns citizens against citizens, so until Wikileaks or some other group can demonstrate this to Americans or other countries, I fear the polarization needed to achieve massive change will be difficult to come by.

I do however hope that someone will be able to unite everyone under a movement for the people because the world is falling apart one day at a time and 99% of the people you ask know it, even if they can't articulate it as well as some of the folks on ATS.

Revolution - look at the word.

Evolution - with an R. It may all just be a necessary step for us in our quest to be human.

~Namaste
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by DimensionalDetective

Vision: Can WikiLeaks and Social Media Help Fuel Revolutions?





No.

The internet is making society "read-only".

Action is not taken by the masses because they are rightfully scared.

What came of the wiki-leaks data? Oh yeah, Obama got three major bills pushed through before Christmas because everyone was focused on crap memos. Score another heist for the global bankers by their front-man.

Peace



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:11 PM
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I think it is a combination of socio-economic factors, corruption, and social media...

As mentioned in the *excellent* article you found, this is one from Tunis, Hamada Ben Aoun,
who grassroot networked, and was later arrested...Sorry I can't direct link, but the only example with the English translation is tied into, not ironically...FACEBOOK, and TWITTER
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www.supporttunisia.com...
edit on 18-1-2011 by sonjah1 because: forgot to include rapper's name



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 01:22 AM
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could wiki leaks spawn a revolution -more than likely it could .
but not here in the so called free world at least not if we know what is good for we the people .
remember the laws that the bankers and governments have passed already to protect their lies .
they have sworn that military's and their neo- nazi police forces to defend their constitutions -for all enemies both foreign and from within.
meaning -that you, we the people dare to stand up to them and their lies and hearsay`s we are to be shot down by their elitist guards without reservations or due process being followed.we the people become the enemy and even the great constitution of the USA won`t protect it`s people .look what happened at Kent state , what was this their way of showing that they could get away with murder and that you the people have no rights as they say that you do . most definably.they say history repeats itself.
Kent state
EU nations
Germany
Quebec
Britain
France -and this list is endless.we have all seen the worlds news over and over ,and it is always the same picture . the populace of the people being beat down ,shot and dragged off to jail.
and then the name game of theirs begins dissidents ,long haired drug crazed hippie killing freaks all because we dared not to have short hair or we are all judged as members of the Manson family considering the fact that no one heard about them until they got busted.all hail the man and his great propaganda machine and all of it`s minions and they think we the people are -STUPID-they should look at themselves.
but then to they the madmen in power have been hiding behind the facade of having our bests interest at heart for so long that most people will believe whatever load of crap they preach to us as the vast majority of them are mindless little sheep who follow with a set of blinders on that they could never ever see the light -they have been had.
WIKI LEAKS-what a perfect way to get the information out there than to unmask the governments and their lies and deceits to the world . we may have lost control of these madmen for now but what better way to wake the people that sleep .
to use their own words against them.
POWER IS KNOWLEDGE
&
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER
what a perfect way to begin to break their hold over all those who are not awake ,remember the rabbit hole. it may be deep but there is always light at the end of the tunnel as long as you are looking ahead or up .



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by picrat
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
 

POWER IS KNOWLEDGE
&
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER


Those mean the same damn thing!



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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Yep, I agree with much of what you said here.

And in fact, that is what has been the most amazing to me throughout the whole WL events--The almost side note of groups popping up and literally superceding media disinfo and propaganda. The media have been playing damage control, or simply ignoring much of the information altogether, likely in the hopes that it would just go away if they gave it no attention. But the caveat that I'm not sure that they really had an idea of, was just HOW BIG the net audience is, as well as their networking capabilities to share information.

It is almost as if this whole thing has grown legs of its own and begun to wake up the world at large. Like a seed was planted, and then one tree grew, dropped more seeds, and then it just expanded exponentially. I just wonder what future releases will do in terms of waking more folks up.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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I feel our (US) government and much of the 1st world western governments have succeeded in pacifying the masses into complacency. Today we more info and dirt on the current war and government than we ever had during Vietnam yet I don't see people storming the White House everyday like they did back then. I can not put my finger on what has changed; why we don't get angry anymore.

Maybe the angry citizens of Tunisia will act as a catalyst for the rest of the world who discovers that they've been lied to their whole lives. I hope they succeed and are the better for it but I imagine, no matter how successful the outcome in Tunisia, our western media will spin it as another "Cuba". We are more connected today with alternative media and have access to news sources before they are spun by left/right wing zealots yet... people still get their sole news from Fox and CNN. I think there needs to be something HUGE and in our faces to shock us in to motion. We have proven with 9/11 that something shocking (a lie, no less) can make us work for the government so I see no reason that social media and whistle blowers couldn't eventually get us to make a stand against the baddies. too.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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In my opinion, a big NO ..... Wikileaks and other social media may help fuel rev in third world countries, but it'll never be in the U.S.
In those countries, the majority of people are suffering from all kind of things everyday.....so even a revo cannot make anything worse than it's already......maybe it does, but it will not be so "big" of a change.
On the other hand, the majority of people in the U.S. has already been "educated-brainwashed" over the years. Giving us so many toys to play with, we don't even bother other things. People got so attached to the system that they do not want to wake up and they even help to protect it.



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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A related story to this topic:


American foreign policy specialists have described the events in Tunisia over the past week as the “first WikiLeaks revolution.” This amounts to a grudging tribute from Washington to the impact of the courageous work of Julian Assange and his co-thinkers, who have made public thousands of documents that reveal the predations and crimes of American imperialism and the venality of its client regimes throughout the world.

WikiLeaks has made public ten cables from the US Embassy in Tunis, all signed by US Ambassador Robert Godec. Their content rebuts the lie, regularly circulated by the US government and the American media, that the documents released by WikiLeaks are inconsequential and reveal “nothing new,” or even put US diplomacy in a favorable light. Far from it: the cables contain significant exposures of the corruption of the Tunisian regime and the US “nod and a wink” approach towards torture in the country’s prisons.

They expose the fraud of Washington’s pretense of support for democracy and human rights around the world.


Full Article:

wsws.org...



posted on Jan, 19 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Full Article:

wsws.org...


Again interesting and relevant information, and while I am still on the fence regarding Assange/anonymous/wikileaks, the World Socialist Web Site, although alternative, appears to have an agenda...


I do, however, think that the OP article needs to be read by anyone who has a slight interest in poverty, change, social media and/or Tunisia/other ME/North African countries


This article is objective and gives many sides/angles to the issues at hand!



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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i love your anthology 1 seed into a tree to spread it`s seeds -but is the seeds the truth or of the lies of the spell masters that all the rest of the worlds people seem to have fallen under.it seems some nations have now started to wake up what about the rest of the worlds people .
was it not the Christ that said that the money lenders were doing business within the church so he threw their tables over-----or was it that the churches are the bankers and they them selves control that book of lies.THE WORLDS CHURCHES ---WORLD WIDE or THE WORLDS BANKERS.sorry about the caps punctuations.

i guess that money is the new god and you either are rich and powerful of you are nothing but slaves to the money lenders. oh how the worlds people have been conned.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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they can fuel revolutions, but only when given the go by the factions that be. you wouldn't see it happen here because they monitor, censor and enforce. them bad, we good, no matter what. but obviously this is not the case.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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no they are not the same . true power and knowledge are WISDOM --not the power to control and subvert all things that all men take as their rights and freedoms . there is a difference.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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Hey DD, big S&F


Yes, I do think that the social media is having a HUGE impact on what goes on in the world gov. vs the people; look at what Wikileaks and Anon did just in the last 6 months.

Personally, I think they did A LOT more than what we're seeing in front of the curtain; what we see on the surface is not what is always underneath.
Yes, the riots are real, but what has stirred them is the big question I've had in the back of my mind for some time. What was the trigger? Look at Egypt, what really was the match that lit the explosion? The public was informed enough to make a decision OR they had assistance from outside sources, we may never know.

I saw the reality curtain drop right after 9/11, due to being in the inside 2 years b4 it all happened, the very reason I got out of the military when i did. Look at all the 'in your face' media out there, you can't tell me there's not a war on for your mind~! It's all about the imagine & management of that subject; USA used to do a pretty good job about keeping it's image squeaky clean but, I think do to the internet technology, it's not as clean as it was thought.

what interesting is they make a mention of 'foursquare' in the article,


Meanwhile Adrian Chen, writing in the tech-savy and snarky Valleywag derisively said “Nobody's citing Foursquareyet,

I was wait, hmmm... so i did a quick search .. interesting to find this ..

foursquare which is an app.

It just seems they dropped a hint possible repercussions against this software, thus the mention of the word 'yet'(?)

truth will find it's way to those that are searching for it, no matter what media or medium it chooses to use. After you find it, what will you do with it?

HA~! and just clicked your profile to see what you been up to and BAM~! your very threads seem to support this very idea..
here and here



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posted on May, 6 2011 @ 03:35 PM
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Some decent information at at Global Research.


Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Here's more for you. I just posted this in my other thread (Why Was the CIA Blind in Egypt?) but it applies here as well....

"American globalization is worse than military dictatorship, because it rots the soul."

"Color Coded" Egypt; Did US-backed NGOs Help to Topple Mubarak

Mike Whitney----Do we know whether foreign agents or US-backed NGOs participated in the demonstrations in Tahrir Square? Could they have played a part in toppling Mubarak?

K R Bolton--The revolts in Tunisia, Egypt and as they are spreading further afield have all the hallmarks of the NED/Soros “color revolutions” that were fomented in the former Soviet bloc states and in Myanmar and elsewhere. They all follow the same pattern and many years of planning, training and funding have gone into the ridiculously called “spontaneous” (sic) revolts.

The organizations that have spent years and much money creating revolutionary organizations in Tunisia, Egypt and elsewhere include the National Endowment for Democracy, USAID, International Republican Institute, Freedom House, Open Society Institute, and an array of fronts stemming therefrom, including: National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, Center for International Private Enterprise, and the American Center for International Labor Solidarity.

Google's Revolution Factory - Alliance of Youth Movements: Color Revolution 2.0

It is hard, considering these men's affiliations, to believe that the change they want to see is anything less than a generation that drinks more Pepsi, buys more consumerist junk, and believes the United States government every time they purvey their lies to us via their corporate owned media.

While the activists attending the Movements.org summit adhere to the philosophies of "left-leaning" liberalism, the very men behind the summit, funding it, and prodding the agenda of these activists are America's mega-corporate combine. These are the very big-businesses that have violated human rights worldwide, destroyed the environment, sell shoddy, overseas manufactured goods produced by workers living in slave conditions, and pursue an agenda of greed and perpetual expansion at any cost. The hypocrisy is astounding unless of course you understand that their nefarious, self-serving agenda could only be accomplished under the guise of genuine concern for humanity, buried under mountains of feel-good rhetoric, and helped along by an army of exploited, naive youth.

The Arab Revolutions and Us: Start Quaking in Your Boots!

In his latest debate on the France 2 TV channel, discussion show anchor Yves Calvi expressed alarm about the possible rise of Islamism in Egypt and Tunisia. However, here we will consider how, if we leave the emotionally-charged media coverage to one side and attempt to analyse the contradictions between the West and the Arab world rationally, these revolutions are less of a threat than an example for us Westerners to follow. We have the opportunity to create a fairer world. Why be afraid?

edit on 2/20/2011 by ~Lucidity because: fixed parens


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