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Originally posted by havenvideo
reply to post by Advantage
Nice job twisting my words. I would never blame a contraption over a humans action. You probably think I'm some "leftist hippy" don't you? Go ahead and throw me a label...
As for Katrina, notice I said CAPABLE Americans. Pretty much the opposite of the wonderful folks who were affected by it. I still don't understand why they needed military action for that. Is it the military's job to oppress the undesirables for the interest of corporations? I honestly haven't seen anything other than that in my lifetime.edit on 19-1-2011 by havenvideo because: (no reason given)
Note the one-eye illuminati symbolism.
Originally posted by savageheart
It is quite obvious that you have a lack of understanding when it comes to these matters of protecting you and yours. What is it that you think should happen when a person threatens you, your life, your family and or your freedoms? Perhaps you should delve a little further into just what that statement means that you posted previous to making such a ridiculous judgment about it.
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."
Originally posted by Thyhorrorcosmic
From a person on facebook:
It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press.
It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech
It is the soldier, not the politician, who has given us the right to vote
It is the solider, who salutes the flag, serves under the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives the pro...tester the right to burn the flag...
typical soldier attitude: "i fight so that you can have freedom"
I swear i get sick to my stomach every time i hear that.
Originally posted by brokedown
Don't know about the rest of you, but a soldier does not give me my freedoms.
I have freedoms because:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Originally posted by questcequecest
reply to post by robinmorningstar
like religious people defending their religion they have a vested interest in it.
you are the same just a different 'religion'
your argument is biased from the get go.
Originally posted by Reconer
You know. The OP is your average joe who has an obvious misunderstanding about how it works. BTW..nice topic to lure inquisitive people like me here just to find some anti-military type or more less getting bent out of shape about something so retarded. If someone says..."Hey, dont talk to me that way because its disrespectful" does that sound better for you? Or how about. "Shut the F@#K up!"...that might be even better over "You have the right to talk that way beause a Marine is getting his A@$ shot off right now so you can make some imature fuc#ing comment on ATS."
The real question here is where is it that you read this? Post it so we can maybe see where you are coming from. Otherwise you are just complaining because you hear it a lot or read it a lot.
I was a Marine and served in combat in Fallujia, Iraq and several other places. I damn sure didnt get shot up for you bro! I've saved lives and probably taken lives (cant confirm) all for my friends and fellow team members...my platoon. Its because those guys sacraficed with me...I ate dinner with their wives and kids, we all take care of one another and when rounds fly and my friends get hit and scream in pain. Those bullets came from someone who wanted to kill me and my friends...simple as that. My guys didnt shoot first and ask questions later...thats not how we roll. We shoot when we've aquired a legit threat (they have a gun and are making attempts to shoot at us or are shooting at us.)
"The war this and the war that"...its all the same political madness in the world we live in. I seriously almost have more respect for the guy that tried to kill me...then you man. Because its takes balls to try and point a weapon and shoot at my team...we rolled deep and heavy and we chew up those guys.
Lets face the hard truth. I dont care if you have a family member or brother or whatever who "served in (fill in the blank)" those are just stories to you and thats it. Maybe you only think you have a better idea of war because you actually paid attention to it now that a family member was at war...or told you a war story.
Its all the same. If you havnt been there..good. If your irratated by the retorical military-gives-you-freedoms speech...trust me...I get it. But I guess its the disrespect that I sense from your topic that has me commenting. You may have the right to say whatever but do you seriously have the ethics and standards to be disrespectful to guys like me because we fought a war and you didnt? Thats seriously unhonorable bro.
I've been on both sides and everywhere in between. The thing that gets me the most is that the Soldiers or the Marines that get sent over there and just sit on a base doing their job hearing a few incoming rounds once in a while come back and act like they are war heroes or seen months of combat. Thats Crap and just as unhonorable...thats even worse in my eyes.
Originally posted by Kangaruex4Ewe
I could tell you what the dumbest thing I'VE read today is.... you might find it a bit ironic.
Why is there such hatred for our soldiers? Last I checked the soldiers didn't get to actively vote on the what, where, and when, of their next mission. I appreciate thier heart.
Now if you want to talk about how sick it makes me that the government uses these men and women as disposable assasins... whole other story.